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I need a history lesson! Please...

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by FHBrumb, Nov 11, 2012.

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  1. FHBrumb

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    Email from my parents reads,

    Pictures are coming. Any thoughts??? History on the gun? Why the "obliteration" of the word" The gun belonged to my great grandfather. No clue where he got it...
     
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    Sounds like a side step to a copyright/trademark infringement upon importation.
     
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    Maybe Colt had trademarked the "Frontier" name and their lawyers got into them.
     
  4. FHBrumb

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    Interesting thought.
     
  5. FHBrumb

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    German handgun manufacturer making Derringers? Must have intended a US market, but they didn't look into copywrites? Kinda half baked business model...

    But it certainly answers the boogered lettering...
     
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    The above quote was in answer to someone asking a related question back in 2008 on a different forum. The user quoted is b.goforth.

    Unfortunately it does't answer the why of the "Frontier" deletion.
     
  9. Jim K

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    Just on a general note, an American trademark has no protection in a foreign country unless registered in that country. So if the word "Frontier" was trademarked in the U.S., a German company could use it if it was not registered in Germany. But when the item was imported, the trademark would have to be removed.

    I don't know if it was Colt, but apparently someone trademarked that name in the U.S. for firearms, so imported guns had to have it removed. Later guns would probably not have it at all, but oblliterating the word would have allowed already-made guns to be sold.

    Incidentally, trademarks, unlilke patents, do not expire as long as the trademark holder uses it and defends it. That is why Smith & Wesson continues to use color case hardened hammers and triggers on some of their gun even though the new MIM parts are already hard; the coloring of those parts is an S&W trademark. (It is also why a writer who has his character order a sandwich and a "coke" may receive a letter from Coca-Cola reminding him that "Coke" is their registered trademark and must be capitalilzed.)

    Jim
     
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    If "Frontier" was ever trademarked, then it has surely expired. For USFA has marketed "Frontier Sixshooters" recently and then there's the Ruger Frontier rifle. But I don't know because there was also the Winchester Legendary Frontiersmen commemorative back in the `60's or `70's.
     
  11. Jim K

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    My note was a general one that I thought might provide the reason for the obliteration of the marking. If the word "frontier" was copyrighted, it probably went back a ways, perhaps to Colt's "Frontier Six Shooter" marking, used on .44-40 SAAs and Model 1878s. It would have expired when the original registrant ceased using it and defending it, but I don't know when that would have been.

    Jim
     
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