I need sage wisdom and guidance on which .45acp is right for me.

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Howdy all,

I have finally decided to add one good .45acp to my family of 9mm's and .357/.38's. I've done alot of reading and now I have several questions. I would appreciate informed opinions on any of the following questions.
(BTW; I plan to use this gun for occasional CCW, it must be virtually 100% reliable, I don't want to have to replace parts or have anything smithed, my price limit is $1k)

1. It looks like the SW1911's are a good solid reliable choice in their price range. Did I miss anything?

2. Are the Stainless Steel models to heavy for CCW?

3. I also like the Sig 220 or 220 Carry but I would want a SAO. Of the two, 1911 and 220, how do they stack up?

4. Again, are the SS models to heavy for CCW?

5. As a Glock guy, would I be happier with a 1911 trigger or a Sig SAO trigger?

6. Any other thoughts?

Thanks in advance!
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Buy one that fits your hand. Check different gun shops and handle the .45acp pistols they have. An HK USP compact 4 inch barrel, stainless slide. HK USPc would be $800/$900 new and the XD45 service stainless slide $400/$500 new. Most bang for the buck is the Springfield milspec 1911 OD green, about $450 +/-.
 
well, since you quoted Mas Ayoob, his favorite .45 on earth is the GLOCK 30...

mine too ......and theres a darn good reason for same.


you know Mas Ayoob has owned and shot everything.........(so have i).


G30 is low bore axis, little muzzle whip....accurate as hell.....and 11 rounds of .45 in a small gun.
 
1. It looks like the SW1911's are a good solid reliable choice in their price range. Did I miss anything?

Nope.

2. Are the Stainless Steel models to (sic) heavy for CCW?

Yep...for me. For you? Only you can decide.

3. I also like the Sig 220 or 220 Carry but I would want a SAO. Of the two, 1911 and 220, how do they stack up?

1911s are the standard for SA triggers. Again, depends on what you like/are accustomed to.

4. Again, are the SS models to (sic) heavy for CCW?

Yep...see # 2 above, :)

5. As a Glock guy, would I be happier with a 1911 trigger or a Sig SAO trigger?

If you like Glock triggers, all of this is pointless. Buy another Glock. Or a rubber band pistol.

6. Any other thoughts?

Hmmm...yeah. But none of them are THR... :)
 
Classified00,

I am just a dumb 52 y/o Southern Boy, I just don't know any better...

Gun choosin', I have folks do as I was done to...try before one gets.

1911s and one place I assisted , we might have two dozen Full and Commander Sized, we never recommended a Officer's Size, although we did have some for folks to try and see why.

From Bone Stock Gov't model, bone stock Steel,Colt Commanders, bone Lightweight Commanders which I prefer, to Custom 1911s built on Caspian Frames and slides.
From rubber stocks to one set of Ivory .

Dead serious, a person would shoot the same exact gun, except for stocks and make a difference for them.

Ladies I assisted, and ladies I hang with also prefer Bone Stock Gov't Model of 1911, Commander, and Lt wt Commander.
IWB @ 4- 4:30.

One does have, and does carry a Commander Sized 9x23 built using Capsian frame...

Try before you buy, make sure you can reach controls, and run the gun.

We have had besides the two dozen 1911s, another two dozen semis, and 3 dozen revolvers.
Six Model 10s exact, except for stocks....
All sorts of holsters and belts too...

1/4 sheet of typing paper , 5 yards, load 5 rounds. At the sound of the buzzer fire from concealment / low ready as quickly and effectively as one can.

The paper does not lie.
The gun you shoot best will be revealed.
Even the type of stock , will be revealed.
Even the ammunition will be revealed

Great to do from time to time, as increased skills sets are learned and as one ages or goes through aging, or physical changes.

Yep, get arthritis and the paper may reveal one needs to use a .38spl instead of .357, or 185 gr instead of 230 gr in 45ACP.

Try before you buy.

Gun fit to shooter is that important, and there is a lot "gun fit" includes.
 
Well, in terms of my subjective opinion, I'd say that as a Glock guy, you'd probably enjoy the 220. It's a very solid pistol that does everything well. Like the Glocks, usually how it comes out of the box is how you'll keep it as long as you own it. My 220 shoots well and it's not a pain to tote around, much like my Glock, but I personally can't get excited about either of them.

No DA auto's trigger is going to wow you if you're comparing it to the 1911 or the Glock; it's going to feel like a long, heavy DA trigger stroke no matter how smooth it is. SA is usually quite nice in Sigs though, maybe a little creep.
 
Personally, I'd say a SIG P220 DA/SA, but you've ruled that out. I own a P220 (plus 3 other SIGs), a Kimber 1911, and five Glocks, so I have practical experience with all the different systems.

The SA trigger pull on my P220 is a bit "spongy" compared to my Kimber 1911. Maybe that's an unfair comparison, because the Kimber breaks like glass, but so be it. I've never fired a SAO P220, but I'll assume its trigger pull is similar to the SA pull on my 220. All of that said, I'd say the SIG would feel a little more like the rather creepy trigger of the Glock, but only in comparison to the 1911. Otherwise, the P220 is 'way better than the Glock.

If I were to choose between a SAO P220 and a 1911, I'd pick the 1911. The reason is the quantity of goodies on the market to allow you to customize it to your taste. The SAO P220 essentially is a 1911 with a shorter barrel, but it has much less stuff available for customization. Plus, 1911 gunsmiths are much more prolific than SIG armorers.

Whether you want to CCW the added weight of an all-stainless gun, that's between you and your pelvis. No one can answer that one except yourself.
 
I'm simplifying and going all Glock all the time, so I'd say G30 or G36. The new slim frame G21 is getting some great reviews too.
 
I own both the Sig and the S&W, and while I won't be selling either anytime soon, my personal preference runs to the Smith & Wesson 1911.

The 1911 grip style just feels right in my hand and it's like no other that I've found to date.

Both are ultra-reliable.
 
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