I Saved Some of my Rabbits

red rick

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Lately while running my beagles I have been seeing piles of bird feathers and my dogs have been barking in their kennels , something that they usually don’t do . I tried calling a few nights without any luck . Christmas when I got up and opened my back door to go feed my dogs I smelt what I thought was a skunk as soon as I opened my door . One of the dogs was barking some about 3am that morning . Well when I get up this morning to pee for the 3rd time and I look out my bedroom window and see something that looks different . Then I see it move , it was a fox at the edge of my yard and the cover . I grab my 243 and go to put on my boots . Then I see it getting closer to the house . I put the rifle down and grab my shotgun . Its head was down on the ground tracking . I managed to open the sliding glass door and walk across the porch as he is walking towards me without him even raising his head . I shoot and bang flop , with 00 buckshot . Not quite as exciting as calling one in , but I take them when I see them . IMG_2285.jpeg IMG_2286.jpeg
 
I have more issues with rabbits than I do with Red Fox. One destroys my blueberries, raspberries and ornamental shrubs, while the other is the best control I have against this destruction. While I agree, that all predators need to be controlled to keep negative interaction with humans and their domestic animals, having them around is a sign of a healthy ecosystem. Fur looks to be prime with good coloration....got any plans for it?
 
I gave it to a guy that is in a deer hunting club and deer hunts the property right across the road from me . I also let him trap when deer season ends , that will be next Saturday .

I wished that I lived close to you , with a few hunters and my dogs we could take care of some of your rabbits .
 
Anymore, a cottontail sighting causes about as much excitement as spotting a 10 point buck. We used to have a huntable population here, but the last couple of years its been more like taking your gun for a walk.

I did see a bunny a couple of days ago so maybe there is still hope. Too many predators I think. Owls and coyotes mainly.
 
Here where I live the cottontail population rises and falls. Some years none, this year quite a few. An owl did get one out back a couple days ago. Sometimes it seems they are gone, but then a light snow shows there are quite a few.
 
Nice looking fox. Got one that hangs out around my house. Chases the rabbits. Catch him on the cameras all the time. Rabbits are all over the place. They leave me alone and I do likewise. If that changes, I pity them.
 
Beautiful guy. I like foxes and all predators must be managed, but he’d probably get a pass around our place.
 
The red-tailed hawks are everywhere around here.
I see quite a bit of game while operating the combine during harvest. About twice per season we see a hawk nail a rabbit from above. They're the wildlife version of a sniper imho. I see them sitting in a tree where I know a covey of quail(my favorite quarry) hang out. They will sit for days in the same tree. I know they're not going hungry.
That's a good looking fox @red rick . I'd be tempted to have it mounted with a gamebird or game animal in its mouth.
Congrats.
 
The rabbits don’t stand much of a chance around me . I have plenty of eagles , hawks , owls , foxes , bobcats and cats here . I ran my dogs today and they had a hard time finding a rabbit the last few times that we’ve ran . I am a rabbit hunter , but I don’t shoot them on my property . I try to keep rabbits to run my dogs without have to drive somewhere to run them . I run them all year long 3 times a week , except when it gets really hot and humid in July and August .
 
That really is a nice looking animal. Ours are usually road kills. We have a family of them by the launch ramp that seem to be unafraid of people.
 
We have so many rabbits in the spring and not one to be found by October 1 opener. Even when I was a kid in the 90s we would jump a few by accident squirrel hunting. There's a famous rabbit dog training place across the border in New Jersey, would be interesting to see what they think.
 
Rabbits are one of very few animals I'll smoke my brakes to avoid running over. Deer for obvious reasons, dogs, and buzzards are the rest. Anything else I'll try not to hit within reason.
I don't have beagles anymore and haven't for about 10 years, but it was a lot of off and on every year. A couple of mild winters in a row and there's bunnies all over. One really bad winter can mess it up for a few years, as can extremely wet springs.

House cats not kept where they belong get more baby bunnies than any foxes around here. They tend to frown on thinning out the cat population around here.
 
We have so many rabbits in the spring and not one to be found by October 1 opener.
....kinda the definition of a "Prey" animal.

Growing up as a kid in the 50s, 60s and 70s in rural Wisconsin, hunting rabbits was the mainstay of weekend entertainment after the gun deer season. There were plenty of them, mainly because we had eliminated the majority of their predators besides us, by hunting or by accident. Every hawk was considered a "chicken hawk" and was shot on sight. Same could be said for owls, even if they were supposed to be protected. Coyotes had not yet become common and fox were heavily hunted with dogs and by trappers. Seeing one of them was considered "rare". The bounty on wolves was lifted, because there were no more. Seeing a eagle was limited to the far North, and even then considered a real treat to see one. While poaching has something to do with it, as we learned later, the main culprit was DDT. Add to that, farming practices were different. Folks didn't farm right up to the fence, there were brushy fencelines and ditches that harbored not only rabbits, but pheasants and quail. Most farmers(only folks that owned rural land back then) burned wood and had multiple brushpiles. Cleared land had huge brushpiles at the end of the new field. Habitat was abundant and predators(besides us kids) were non-existent.

I wished that I lived close to you , with a few hunters and my dogs we could take care of some of your rabbits .

Sorry, but your trip would be short and probably not worth it. There are multiple reasons for this. Used to be, hunting land was owned by farmers who did not have the time to hunt, or only hunted deer during the nine day deer season. Back the the main way to hunt deer was to drive them, so spooking deer before the season was not a "thing". Rabbit hunters were appreciated and welcomed. Nowadays, those 200 acre farms have been split up into multiple 40 and 80s and folks have them for the sole purpose of deer hunting. Since deer hunting here now runs from the beginning of September till mid-late January, very few, if any(me included) are going to let multiple hunters with multiple dogs push the deer they have worked hard to keep on their property, to be driven over to the neighbors. Foxes don't do that. Rabbits, like deer and other wildlife that one time avoided humans and their habitation, have come to grips with living in town and next to developed housing. Not only is it safer there that the woods, many times the food is more abundant. Birds feeders and ornamental vegetation is high on their food list. So while there is a lot of rabbits in toen, not a lot of hunting goes on there. Probably why it is pretty common in my sub-division to see foxes and coyotes, along with hawks in our backyards.......and thank the Lord they are there.
 
We are lucky here , we have a long small game season after deer season . Our deer season ends this coming Saturday and we have to the end of February to small game hunt . Our deer season starts in October with archery season the whole month and then muzzleloader the first 2 weeks of November and then firearms season until the first Saturday of January . By then I am glad deer season is over and ready for rabbit hunting . Also here in most counties it is legal to deer hunt with hounds , so others peoples deer hounds would push the deer off of your property a lot more than someone rabbit hunting . I see deer all the time after we have finished hunting , they just seem to know that they are not what we are hunting and our beagles are not running them .
 
I see deer all the time after we have finished hunting , they just seem to know that they are not what we are hunting and our beagles are not running them .
Your beagles are smarter/better-trained than my 13 dog pack was back when. There were very few deer at the time but the dogs would switch from bunnies to deer if they scented one.
 
Your beagles are smarter/better-trained than my 13 dog pack was back when. There were very few deer at the time but the dogs would switch from bunnies to deer if they scented one.
Electronics , gps tracking and training collars and handhelds . I wouldn’t keep a beagle that I couldn’t break from running deer within a few hunts . I haven’t had to get rid of one yet for that reason .
 
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Growing up we had tons of rabbits, very few coyote, the occasional hawk0 and it was a notable experience to see either a fox or an eagle. Now, we have a ton of coyotes, hawks galore, the occasional eagle or fox, and rabbits have taken a sudden downhill trend with the predator population booming. There are 2 other factors that I see as problematic for the rabbits. 1. The bobcats seem to be much healthier than they used to be, but not necessarily more plentiful. Reasonably if there’s a healthier predator it will catch more prey. 2. The feral cat population is absolutely booming. With the onslaught of the feral cat, it makes me root for the coyotes and bobcats. A conservation officer once said during a talk with a bunch of middle schoolers that the only thing harder on small game populations than an opossum is a cat. They breed quick, live long, kill to eat, and kill out of boredom. That stuck.
 
I have a love , hate relationship with bobcats and foxes , because they are only doing what they do to survive , but I have seen a fox kill 8 chickens at one time though . I have no love for a feral cat, or your house cat if I see it on my property . It is a felony to kill them in Virginia , but there are exceptions to that , that gives you the right to kill them for chasing , or killing livestock on your property .
 
That's a good fox. In my neck of the woods, we don't see them much anymore. But that don't upset me any. As a man with 60 head of laying hens, I'm severely anti-predator. Between me and the hounds we keep em pretty well thinned put though. All except for the d@mned hawks of course. The cussed things usually get a hen or two a year too, and there isn't a thing I can do about it. I don’t want them decimated but I do wish the game and fish would let us do something to at least thin the numbers down.

Mac
 
Yeah, rabbits don't stand a chance any more. Hawks have rebounded heavily in 20 - 30 years. People don't trap foxes like they used too. Early winter we have plenty, then spring time I wonder if any are left to repopulate, but they do.

I tried planting hazel hunt trees for the deer herd. Put in clusters with 4x4 fence around to keep the deer out until they got bigger. Rabbits went through he fence and ate the entire seedlings in the winter. Not a single one survived at my place or the on the farm.
 
Yeah, rabbits don't stand a chance any more. Hawks have rebounded heavily in 20 - 30 years. People don't trap foxes like they used too. Early winter we have plenty, then spring time I wonder if any are left to repopulate, but they do.

I tried planting hazel hunt trees for the deer herd. Put in clusters with 4x4 fence around to keep the deer out until they got bigger. Rabbits went through he fence and ate the entire seedlings in the winter. Not a single one survived at my place or the on the farm.
We have about three rabbits on this place. Half is oak timber then row crop. Yard deer ear the apples. The blue healers eat the squirrels and the apples. Any small game hunting is those paper targets. But like reading about others hunting.
 
We initiated a program years ago of piling brush and such into washes or along the edges of other cover rather than burning it. We have cottontails coming back which we are hoping will continue.

We have seen a fox or two through the years but not as often as coyotes. We keep game cams out year round to monitor some of our deer and catch lots of stuff in the process. One of my prized pics is of a bobcat chasing a fox squirrel up a tree next to a feeder.

We really do not have anything crop or livestock wise that rabbits or predators bother except in the spring when the deer drop their ninnies. Around then coyotes become our main priority. Our predatory birds like owls and hawks are welcome but the newer influx of black headed buzzards has caused some concern. They are semi predatory and don't necessarily wait to find carrion and will move in on newborn livestock and deer fawns.
 
A friend of mine that is a big time rabbit and predator hunter called me yesterday and he called in a triple the nigh before , two coyotes and 1 bobcat . He has done that twice this year . It amazes me that the sound of a gun doesn’t scare them off . All three were called to the same spot in about 10 minutes he said . He has killed 8 coyotes , 7 bobcats and 7 foxes this season with two months left to go . Resized_20240102_214007.jpeg
 
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