I want a pistol caliber carbine

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Hey guys I want my next purchase to be a pistol caliber shoulder fire weapon but I'm not seeing a whole lot of options. I'm not sure that I want to go to the bottom of the barrel with a Hi Point, I've been really dissatisfied with the .380 pistol I got from them. The kel tec sub2000's are sold out most of the time at all the online retailers that I usually use, and if I did get one from them I would want the one that uses the G17 mags. Beretta CX4 storm looks nice, I'd have to get the one that uses the 92 mags so I could get some 30 rounders. I don't mind paying 770.00 for the storm but I need to find out if its a excellent gun not just a ok one. I'm also not really interested in a AR platform, if I was to get another ar it would be in another rifle caliber, that is unless pistol caliber AR's blow all the other pistol carbines out of the water. I'd like to hear some recommendations from the forum members, thanks for any info you may have.
 
You don't mention a specific caliber but how about finding yourself a rifle like the Marlin Camp 9 or Marlin Camp 45? They are semi automatic rifles. There is also no shortage or lever guns chambered in pistol cartridges made by Marlin and other manufacturers. Also if you can find one there is the Ruger Model 44 in .44 Mag. I had a Ruger Model 44 I regret selling so hope another comes along.

Ron
 
probably 9mm since all my centerfire pistols are 9's. That'll make buying ammo easier. One size fits all. I would go for a camp 9 but I can't seem to find them anywhere but on gunsamerica.com. Are they out of production? I'd like to find one new to compare prices with some of the other carbines. Also I foresee a lever gun in the future but I don't think I'm interested right now.
 
I have Marlin Camp Carbines in 9mm and .45ACP. The .45 is sweet and use 1911 mags. The 9mm is a bit picky and chokes on some mags. (It uses S&W mags) Indeed, no longer made, since 1992 or some something.

And I have a .357/.38 and .44Mag/.44 lever actions (Win and Browning). All great guns.

I've been dreaming of a 10mm AR-15. But a 9mm AR is less dough. I don't think there are any huge drawbacks of the "AR" blowback guns, seems all the mag issues are past history.

Just bag all that and get a .458 SOCOM.
 
If I did get a 9mm ar I would want one with a 10.5 inch barrel and a nice free float tube. I think that would look pretty cool, probably would cost me an arm and a leg though.
 
Hi Point carbines are far from the bottom of the barrel. I can think of one other that gets that nod.

Don't let their pistols sell you on the quality of their rifles. You'll be mistaken.
 
I have a few of them but would need more information to suggest one for you. You can get glock conversions and run any glock mag as it uses the pistol lower. You can get the marlin semiatuos as well and use S&W or 1911mags. AR's are out there that use glock mags in 9mm or other easy to find mags in 45l, along with a bunch of others to choose from. If you go lever action, 44 mag is quite impressive and 357 out of an 18" barrel is good for deer out to 100 yds for sure. What do you want to do with it?
 
The hi point in the ATI stock kit is a nice gun.
For pistol calibers in a carbine, I like lever actions. I have a Rossi m92 in 38/357.
I'd like to get the hi point/ATI stock and make it a truck gun.
 
My pistol caliber Carbine is a Marlin 1894C in 38/357. It's a great Carbine, fun to shoot and accurate too. With the right ammo you can take Deer with it if need be. Nothing wrong with a 1894 in .44 Magnum either.
 
The Hi-Point carbines are wonderful. The next step up in quality that I'm familiar with is the Beretta Cx4 storm, which can cost $700. As for much else, well, I'm ignorant. The M1 Carbine is going up in price, but they're said to be fine little shooters.
 
how about finding yourself a rifle like the Marlin Camp 9 or Marlin Camp 45?
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I have the .45 (uses 1911 mags) and the 9mm (uses S&W 59 series mags). Unless you're sold on black & tacti-cool, these are very nice little riflles.
 
Don't forget to consider the ruger pc9. Great carbine and you can often find them on gunbroker with extra mags for a reasonable price. I'm hoping to pick up a pc4, the .40 cal version, someday.
 
There is a reason short carbine AR-15's have made pistol caliber carbines obsolete. They cost less for a quality rifle,are often lighter, are much more dependable, more affordable magazines, more effective on human targets and penetrate building material less.

Pistol caliber carbines had their time and place, but I cannot think of a single good reason to buy one over an AR in 2012.
 
IMHO the one true choice here is a 9mm AR SBR, something in the 5-7" range.

You can start with it built as pistol and use it for the ~6 months it takes to get the stamp and then add the stock when the stamp arrives. Once you get the stamp you can also try other SBR calibers


I cannot think of a single good reason to buy one over an AR in 2012.
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Here is a couple:

Ammo costs and ease of reloading are in favor of the pistol caliber carbine if you plan on shooting it a lot.

The pistol caliber carbine is better if you what to shoot suppressed. Suppressed 5.56 and 7.62 are fun, but still loud enough that you should wear earpro if doing more than a few shots because of the supersonic crack. Heavy subsonic pistol bullets are remarkably quiet.
 
The Hipoint 9mm carbine isn't that bad.
The magazine sucks but otherwise it's decent.

Other options include the Marlin camp carbine 9mm,

The Ruger PC-4 (40S&W) & Ruger PC-9 (9mm)
I have one of each and these are excellent little carbines.
They were designed to use the Ruger P series pistol magazines, so if you have a P series pistol, you can share mags.

They're incredibly accurate and reliable little carbines and I would highly recommend them.
 
I cannot think of a single good reason to buy one over an AR in 2012.
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I'll add another one!

If you want to ever go the SBR route, the pistol ammo is far more efficient in the typical civilian role. You chop 5.56 down to 7-9" and you have a lot of ballistics issues. Not to mention all the flash and blast. But you will actually get _better_ ballistics out of your handgun ammo and less flash and blast.

Chop a pistol caliber AR down to 7-9" and make it a legal SBR and you are the closest you are going to get to a legal MP5 without spending mega-thousands of dollars on the the full auto game. Actually a short .22 LR SBR is a lot of fun to play with as well.

Gregg
 
Actually a short .22 LR SBR is a lot of fun to play with as well.
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Serious understatement!

I've got the CMMG .22lr AR pistol and it works surprisingly well as pistol with a red dot sight on it when shooting steel plates, but when its on my SBR lower it makes it obvious why people say the purpose of your pistol is to fight your way back to your rifle!
 
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