I want one...

[Fosbery]

Latest creation from GB's Southern Gun Company:

Check out their website http://www.southern-gun.co.uk/

You might like this one especially, a lever-action AR15 chambered in .30 carbine - the only rifle in the world that can be cocked in 4 different ways!

 

[Hoppy590]

is the lever action cocked via manipulation of the pistol grip?

 

[Fosbery]

Yep

 

[Bazooka Joe71]

interesting....It looks expensive.

 

[hopkin]

An ad in Gunmart gave a price of about £1,200, if I remember correctly. What would that be, about $2,200 or thereabouts? Ouch.

Edit: nope, £900. Not so bad. I's still need to sell my girlfirend on the streets to afford one.

 

[Punkermonkey]

Is it suppressed? What are the UK laws on suppressors?

 

[Fosbery]

Supressors are treated just like firearms i.e. you need what is essentially a permit for each one but they're fairly easy to get. The authorities would rather shooters are out of sight (and hearing).

 

[Black Adder LXX]

Oh man... Very pretty...

 

[NCHornet]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!

 

[bogie]

Looks heavy.

 

[armoredman]

What tortured routes they take due to thier onorous regulations and laws. I would like to see the top one in 50 Beowulf, in a normal semi-auto format, not straight pull bolt action.

 

[sterling180]

After 1987,the Conservative government were nervous about issuing silencers,onto full-bore rifles,because of the carnage that Micheal Ryan caused with his AK47 in Hungerford and thought 'crazy sniper',will shoot at people silently and thus refused to believe that they were essential.However rimfire silencers were easier to get,strangely.These bizarre paranoid views also featured,short-barrelled shotguns and same calibre pistols.

But in the 90s,when the health and safety guidelines were changed,silencers were issued to full-bore guns,because hunters hunting in open,woodland areas needed to:

Be able to hunt,with out spooking their quarry and being able to hear them at the same time-so ear muffs were out of the question.

An unsilenced gun can cause distress to animals and to people that are near the area,in which hunting activities are in operation,so it makes sense to have silenced guns.

Target-shooters can't get a silencer for a gun and can't use a silencer on a bullet gun,unless it is on a zeroing range,at a Home Office approved club and that that the user,is a hunter or pest controller.

 

[Fosbery]

Sterling,

It's at the discretion of the local police. There is no hard and fast rule, you simply require 'good reason' as with any (section 1) firearm. Some forces are, as you describe, fairly strict and will only give them to hunters and pest controllers. Others will give them to target shooters to reduce hearing damage, especially if your club has covered firing points or if the shooter is old or young or disabled or if the gun is a large caliber like .50 BMG (they also reduce recoil so that can go towards good reason too). Integral silencers are not subject to any restrictions beyond that of the firearm they are attached to. People use silencers on rifles at Bisley all the time and a lot of the big bore shooters use them too. Here's a .50 cal with a can in Wales:

And a rather tasty set up with a .22 AR15:

And a .308 sniper/target rifle at Bisley:

And a better view of the moderator in the lower left:

 

[revjen45]

Well I'll be dipped. I thought CF rifles were banned in Britain. Live and learn.

 

[SaMx]

centerfire semiautos and pumps are banned. They can still get bolt action and lever action centerfire rifles.

 

[hopkin]

centerfire semiautos and pumps are banned. They can still get bolt action and lever action centerfire rifles.

You mean pump action rifles? That would explain why I've never seen a straight pull AR in a wierd pump action style. I always wondered why I'd never seen them. I'm ashamed to admit I have no idea if it's technically possible anyway.

Just to clarify for the non-Brits, pump action shotguns are legal, although ones with a capacity more than 3 need approval on a Firearm Certificate to be purchased instead of the easier-to-get Shotgun Certificate.

I saw an ad in What Gun 2007/2008 for a straight pull Steyr AUG. No price and no details on the site yet. http://www.sportsmansguncentre.co.uk

 

[armoredman]

Great Scott. I wish you guys the best getting some of that junk repealed. That picture reminded me it's time for a cup of coffee...

 

[sterling180]

You mean pump action rifles? That would explain why I've never seen a straight pull AR in a wierd pump action style. I always wondered why I'd never seen them. I'm ashamed to admit I have no idea if it's technically possible anyway.

Pumps were last seen over here back in '89,before they were banned,under the 1988 Firearms Ammendment Act.The antis argued that they would be substituted for semi-autos,by psychos,like Micheal Ryan.Also they and semi-auto centrefire rifles wern't very popular with the shooters anyway and so they believed that we didn't need them anyway.

The daft thing is that pumps shotguns are legal annd the semi-auto ones too.What nonsense it was,to ban pump rifles in centrefire calibres.

 

[SaMx]

I know, it's one of the most ridiculous things. Pump and I believe semi shotguns are still legal because the rich people like to shoot skeet with them . It's the only reason I can think of, that the richer people with more political power were able to protect their sport, and screw over everyone else.

 

[sterling180]

I know, it's one of the most ridiculous things. Pump and I believe semi shotguns are still legal because the rich people like to shoot skeet with them . It's the only reason I can think of, that the richer people with more political power were able to protect their sport, and screw over everyone else.

You have spot on there my friend.This reminds me of Thatcher's disguisting Tory party and the 'Greed is Good' attitudes of that time.They even screwed their loyal voters,too.

 

[Fosbery]

That's not the reason I'm afraid. Rich people don't generally use semis or pumps for skeet, grouse etc. They were exempted because of their need for shooting certain types of bird (I forget which one... wood pigeon maybe?) in a pest control role. Of course, practical shotgunning with slugs just happened to explode in popularity about the time of the semi-auto rifle ban

 

[sterling180]

I think Fosbery,what SaMx meant was that the clay crowds,only looked out for themselves-including the rich people,who were members too.
Yes pumps/semis had a legitimate use in pest control,but so did centrefire rifles of that format,anyway.This was about the snobbish Tories turning their noses up at non-traditional guns and also they didn't feel that we needed them,anyway.

 

[SaMx]

yeah. I was also a little upset because earlier I had been arguing with a guy who wanted to ban semi rifles here, but not shotguns, because he uses his fancy Benelli for sporting clays or whatever (clay targets only, not hunting, he was very specific in pointing that out).

 

[sterling180]

The sad thing also Fosbery is,that after Dunblane those you know whats,never supported the target crowd and were happy for the target shooters to forfit their rights to centrefire pistols and the BSSC is one organization,that is a classic example of this,too.