ontherun987
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I would like to place a fore grip on my pistol, I have herd that i need some sort of stamp tax. What do I forms do I need to fill out and what are the requirements? Thank you for your time and help
I want to place a fore grip on my pistol...
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evan price
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You would be creating an AOW (Any Other Weapon) which is a restricted class of firearm by the ATF, $200 tax prepaid to the ATF, set of fingerprints and a Form-4 which requires sign off by chief LEO in your area.
Welcome to nonsense gun control laws.
Mods, might want to move this to NFA forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY9hRZDZcf8
Welcome to nonsense gun control laws.
Mods, might want to move this to NFA forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY9hRZDZcf8
ontherun987
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fore grip
does this cover any thing I do to it... like silencer and a stock or do i have to file a form for each item that I attach?
does this cover any thing I do to it... like silencer and a stock or do i have to file a form for each item that I attach?
Deus Machina
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I believe it would cover a few things like a foregrip or, possibly, a smoothbore barrel. I am neither an expert or lawyer.
A suppressor (silencer) requires its own tax stamp, and a stock makes it a short-barreled rifle, which is a different stamp.
A suppressor (silencer) requires its own tax stamp, and a stock makes it a short-barreled rifle, which is a different stamp.
Snarlingiron
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Why?
Just curious. What are you trying to accomplish?
Sam1911
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The answers...
To install a froward vertical grip on a handgun, you need to file a "Form 1" to register a Title II "Any Other Weapon" you are making. You send the form, finger prints, CLEO signature, and $200 to the ATF and wait until they return it to you, approved with a canceled tax stamp, before you install that grip.
A silencer requires its own form, fee, and tax stamp. Unless you're making your own, that would transfer on a "Form 4."
If you want to put a stock on it, you'd be making a "Short Barreled Rifle." You'd need to file a Form 1 to do that. But if you did that, the AOW issues wouldn't come into play -- it would be a rifle, not a handgun so you can install a vertical grip without a problem.
To sum up -- if you think you might want to put a stock on it, register it as a SBR. That will let you do the stock and/or the vertical grip. A detachable suppressor/silencer will be a separate registration, form, and fee.
There aren't really any good practical reasons to install a vertical grip on a convectional handgun as such would make your pistol almost impossible to holster and a forward support hand stance is not as fast or inherently accurate as the more traditional Isosceles (or Weaver) stances. But, if you just want it for looks or to try it out, it might be worth $200 to you.
To install a froward vertical grip on a handgun, you need to file a "Form 1" to register a Title II "Any Other Weapon" you are making. You send the form, finger prints, CLEO signature, and $200 to the ATF and wait until they return it to you, approved with a canceled tax stamp, before you install that grip.
A silencer requires its own form, fee, and tax stamp. Unless you're making your own, that would transfer on a "Form 4."
If you want to put a stock on it, you'd be making a "Short Barreled Rifle." You'd need to file a Form 1 to do that. But if you did that, the AOW issues wouldn't come into play -- it would be a rifle, not a handgun so you can install a vertical grip without a problem.
To sum up -- if you think you might want to put a stock on it, register it as a SBR. That will let you do the stock and/or the vertical grip. A detachable suppressor/silencer will be a separate registration, form, and fee.
There aren't really any good practical reasons to install a vertical grip on a convectional handgun as such would make your pistol almost impossible to holster and a forward support hand stance is not as fast or inherently accurate as the more traditional Isosceles (or Weaver) stances. But, if you just want it for looks or to try it out, it might be worth $200 to you.
docnyt
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Do you need to fill out a form for a removable pistol grip though?
Sam1911
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If it is a vertical grip, mounted in a foreward position, then YES, you would have to register the gun as an NFA Title II "AOW."
TexasRifleman
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The tax to make one is $200 either way so you might as well make an SBR since you have more flexibility.
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Or for an AOW you can have a Class 2 SOT make one and transfer it back to you on a Form 4 for $5 transfer fee plus his labor. As long as the transfer fee and labor charge are $199 or less, it's the cheaper option especially if you don't want your name engraved on the gun (as required by you when you manufacture a Title II firearm).
pikid89
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say if you were to do the sbr thing to a glock...how would you engrave the SBR stuff on the lower?
highorder
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Personally?
I'd hot stamp the frame with the information, or inlay an engraved plate like Glock does.
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