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I Was about to get the LMT AR when...

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Infidel Cowboy, Dec 2, 2008.

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  1. Infidel Cowboy

    Infidel Cowboy Member

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    I was in the store, credit card on the counter and giving the owner the info to order my lower after playing with an m4(gery), when I realized that the gun just had no soul. It was perfect for what I wanted it for. Low recoil, fast follow ups, high cap, you guys know all the reasons for wanting one. But, I couldn't commit. I was prepared to drop waaayy too much cash on one rifle with one purpose when I realized I could walk out with that BLR (straight stock, takedown in .308) and an 1894c (.357) for what I was gonna spend.

    Now, I know a lot of you are gonna say that an AR is what I need for the fit hitting the shan situation. You're right. But, I think that since I'm not SWAT trained, if I'm ever in a situation where the advantages of having an AR over an 1894 are important, then I'm the deciding factor and the equipment will be moot. The leverguns are more likely to force me to be a rifleman.

    Either way - I got me a BLR in.308 and the 1894 is on it's way (hopefully by Thursday!):D

    Now, if I can find some place that has ammo in stock so I can take 'em out to play on Saturday!:cuss:
    IC
     
  2. gvnwst

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    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: No Ar:(:(....... But those will work fine.

    Let me be the first.

    Thanks, i know:D:D:D:D
     
  3. JWarren

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    Souls are overrated. I sold mine back in '94 for a Double-Meat Quarter Pounder meal. I didn't eat breakfast that morning, and I was hungry. And I wasn't using it at the time.


    :evil: Oh, wait... that's not funny anymore. :eek:


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  4. Texasred

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    Whatever floats our boat. At least you have the peace of mind to cross state lines with your arsenal!

    Seriously, I don't like the negative imagery I sometimes get when black rifles are involved.

    But 2 guns are better than one!
     
  5. Infidel Cowboy

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    The first girl I dated was a potential Hooter's employee of the month. She even liked to talk dirty on the phone. She was a LOT of fun to play with. But, I really wasn't all that keen on taking her home to meet my mom. That's kinda the way the AR feels.

    There's something to be said for polished walnut and blued steel. While the AR might fit every criteria, I trust the levers. No logical basis for it, just my gut. And please, all those of you who have put on a pair of boots and picked the rifle I seem to disparage, I mean no disrespect. I give you all thanks and homage, and speak often of your honor to my son. While logically the AR platform fulfills all my requirements, it just doesn't feel right.
     
  6. benEzra

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    If you like the rifles you bought more than you'd like an AR, then you made the right decision. The beauty of a free country is that everyone is free to choose what they like.

    I don't personally have any use for lever-actions, and think straight-stocked guns are so 19th century, which is why my ".30-30" is an AK. But I think you made the right choice, for you.

    The only requirement I'd make is, give us a range report ASAP!
     
  7. Infidel Cowboy

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    Two stores and no 308 other than one box of 50 grn Win SuperX.

    Range is Saturday unless something goes wrong. I will be happy to humble myself with a range report:D
     
  8. Loomis

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    Your choice if fine. Just be darn sure to keep all your fit far away from shans!
     
  9. .38 Special

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    I've skinned a few noses around here with my opinions on "SHTF" and the rifles supposedly necessary for such fantasies. I'd be willing to bet that the rise in interest in "assault rifles" corresponds closely to the popularity of online roleplaying games.

    So put me down on record as thinking Mr. Cowboy is one of the more sensible posters around here.
     
  10. RockyMtnTactical

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    :(

    Your loss...
     
  11. dmazur

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    Absolutely.

    There's the die-hard benchrest crowd, the PD shooters that take at least 2 or 3 rifles so that they can shoot one while the others cool, the cowboy action shooter crowd, the tactical 3-gun guys, the dedicated hunters, and the casual weekend plinker, just to name a few.

    Heck, there's rumors of a group that gets together and shoots WWII battle rifles at unlikely distances for iron sights... :)

    I don't think these disparate shooters have to get together and agree on anything. However, it's nice if they can all agree that keeping the shooting sports alive is a worthwhile goal.

    So, that's my $0.02. I don't care what you're shooting, as long as it is done safely and you are having fun. Good choice. Enjoy your new rifles.
     
  12. Floppy_D

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    No, it is, and you got a good deal on otherwise stationary merchandise. Carry on. :)

    Great call. An AR is an excellent SHTF rifle. Tell me now, when is the S gonna hit the F? If you have to run off looters, can you do it with a shotgun or lever gun just the same? I like 'em all, but I wouldn't feel under-equipped just cause it ain't an EBR.
     
  13. mauiglide

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    Don't worry, the LMT will be on your mind again real soon. The novelty of the other guns will wear off then BRD will set in.

    Enjoy your new firearms.
     
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    I have three AR's and three lever guns and I shoot the levers twice as much. They are just more fun to shoot most of the time,and you don't have to spend days reloading the ammo you shot in one day,so they are a more economic choice most of the time.
    Congratulations,on your new guns.
     
  15. Kind of Blued

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    I agree with you completely, however, I'm planning on buying all of my Mojo-guns later on, just in case that's ALL I can buy.

    Buying an AR or a Glock is about as exciting as buying a hammer anymore.

    Buying a nickeled SAA replica or a trapdoor is like buying a new puppy. :)
     
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    It just shows how we each have our own tastes. An LMT AR has no soul? When I look at (or fondle) a fine AR, I hear choir music-now that's soul.
     
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    I respect your opinions. The insults, not so much.

    What "online roleplaying games", pray tell, have anything to do with AR's and AK's?

    I don't do MMORPG's. I do shoot IPSC carbine matches with my AK, and at some point I'll probably take up deer hunting with it. A 5-shot autoloading .30-30 with 154-grain softpoints is a pretty decent brush gun for eastern whitetails, after all.

    And kudos to the man in the OP for choosing the rifles he likes, without bashing the choices or motivations of others.
     
  18. JWarren

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    I'm kinda with ben on this one.

    Good post ben.


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  19. Schleprok62

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    I don't think he meant roleplaying so much as the "First Person Shooter" games that have come into vogue these days. Battlefield 1 & 2, America's Army, Medal of Honor, etc... As well as the Doom, Quake, and Unreal Tournament series of games...

    But I can't say whether or not he's on to something in that respect, but I'm sure there is some relative thinking there...
     
  20. benEzra

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    I think there are about as many Enfields and Garands (Medal of Honor, most of the Call of Duty series) as AR's and AK's, and a lot of FPS games involve guns that don't exist (the Halo trilogy comes to mind). But considering that the AR-15 has been on the civilian market since 1961 and sales really took off in 1994 (prior to the widespread popularity of those games), I think the correlation is not there.

    The poster has suggested in other threads that most of us who own AR's and AK's don't choose them over older-style guns on their merits, but own them because we are fulfilling Walter Mitty-esque fantasies or are Rambo wannabes (never mind that Rambo was before my time).

    There is most definitely an age correlation with EBR ownership, in that shooters under age 40 are both more likely to own modern-looking carbines, and are more likely to own gaming consoles, but that's a generational thing, not causation. We Gen-X and Gen-Y types are also more likely to text our friends, have MySpace pages, edit Wikipedia, and surf the High Road on our PDA's and smart phones. But that's because we grew up with consumer electronics and autoloading firearms, IMO.
     
  21. Infidel Cowboy

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    While I loved a spirited discussion probably more so than most, in the interest of defending The High Road...

    When I read 38's post I took it as meant more toward the mall ninja crowd. We all know that Gecko45 loves those platforms, and when I went looking for someone to blame for the prices rising so quickly of late I did include his crowd in my long string of muttered curses:cuss: Unfortunately, that helps to create a stereotype that can wrongly be applied to the many true rifleman among us who choose a very capable platform (AK, AR, etc.) for some very legitimate uses from paper punching to clearing rooms.

    Truth be told, there is nothing preventing a Seal / Ranger, etc from playing Ghost Recon or cuddling his M4 while watching zombie movies, and neither diminishes his abilities, honor, or the value of his service to us all. Conversely, it is also possible that an "evil" black rifle can be a child's first. One of us has a daughter who's seen in a video on YouTube field stripping and assembling an AR awfully quick, and I'll bet lunch that she's better with hers than I'd have been with the LMT had I bought it:)

    Back on topic and off my soapbox - sorry -
    The point of my OP was not that either / any platform was better for any particular purpose. (Yes the AR is better for room clearing but if I end up having to do that, every bit of planning I have ever done has already gone sooo wrong that I doubt this choice will matter much:)) Just that you can do all the research and math you want. But, when it comes time to put your money where your mouth is, it's gotta feel right. None of the tools we use for fun or fighting are getting any cheaper, so make it count and be comfortable with your choice. I was twisting in the wind and came down on the side of lever guns. I'm happy with my purchase(s) and you guys and gals helped me make my decision. If my decision helps someone else make theirs, then it's been a good day. If my decision was horribly wrong, well it won't be the first mistake I've made:D
     
  22. Guns and more

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    That leaves one more for me!
     
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    Two excellent guns, no problem there.
     
  24. SHvar

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    Which ever purchase feels right.

    The rifle you choose is what is right for you. Im glad your happy with your purchase. Hope to hear soon that you are on the range having fun.
    With my AR it was like being reunited with an old familiar, exciting friend. An old aqaintance that brings back memories, one that I have traveled the world with and they were watching out for me at every turn.
     
  25. Lonestar.45

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    If you're happy with the decision, then that's all that matters. Good for you. I can't fault you for getting two nice guns instead of walking out with one. There's something to be said for walnut and blued steel.

    That said, the LMT will call to you again and you'll end up getting it eventually.
     
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