I wonder about Sigarms, I really do

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Ala Dan the standard P series while nice guns are limited by the fact they are DA SA. No the GSR is a winner and it provides a quality 1911 with sigs reliability and accuracy with no MIM parts. With a light rail. It feels like a very tight gun but not too tight. It will shoot rings around a 220 on a tactical course.
Pat
 
SIGs reputation for reliability and accuracy was not built on 1911's, and although 1911's aren't really that difficult to build the, GSR is still so new as to be an unknown quantity. The specs are out there for anyone to use, but the key will be the QC and service departments.

Regards,
Happyguy:D
 
Happyguy Time will tell but from the GSR I have held and played with I am very impressed. I also met the man who designed the GSR seems to be a good smith. I am willing to take a chance. It is either that or spend close to 2000 on a Wilson CQB with a rail. I don't trust springfield due to a bad experience and Kimber QC is slipping and the series 2 guns seem to have problems. Colt does not even have a rail and I am waiting to see if the new guns their makign are really in deed better than the trash of recent years.
Pat
 
Hey Pat My Friend-

I didn't say I would never buy a GSR! That may happen
any minute? But, I'm not going to give up on the
P220!

Now, with that out of the way where bouts can I see a
pic of this SIG 250 ya'll keep talk'in about?

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
 
I didn't say I would never buy a GSR! That may happen
any minute? But, I'm not going to give up on the
P220!
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I gave up my 220 long ago when I gave up on carrying crunchtickers. Sig makes the best DA SA guns out there. But there still da sa with all the associated problems.
Pat
 
No the GSR is a winner and it provides a quality 1911 with sigs reliability and accuracy with no MIM parts.
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No, it just shows that SIG knows what everyone else knows: if you want to build a quality 1911, you just pick up your rolodex, look up the numbers for Caspian, Wilson, EGW, Grieder, Performance Engineering, Wolff, Storm Lake, and Novak's (or other equally qualified firms.)

What part on the GSR shows SIG's sainted touch? :scrutiny:
 
But I've yet to try the P-239, so I wouldn't know. Tell me more.
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I love my 239, I've been looking at one of the 225's in the cases at work and I can't really find any reason to buy one. My 239 fits my hand better, is smaller but it has the same capacity(in 9mm)

But I think I'll end up with one just to help complete my Sig collection :D
 
P239 feels too small in my hand. P225 is the perfect gun for me. It's big for only 8 rounds or so. I'd carry a Kahr first, but the P225 - yum. Nothing has ever felt as good in my hand as a P225.

The P239 is just too little in the grip for my tasts, and it's seriously top heavy to me.
 
I sold my 239 so I could buy a NIB 225. It's great and for me, simply feels better. Difference in weight is negligible.

For those of you who have more experience with Sigs I have a question.
Is there any way to modify a 225 magazine, using the base plate of the 239,10-round magazine to increase the capacity of the 225?
I'm really surprised that there's no way to squeeze one more round into the 225 mag with a different spring or follower.
Any thoughts?
 
What part on the GSR shows SIG's sainted touch?
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Frankly I don't care. They are well put together with quality parts. Where else for $850 bucks (what I am paying) an I get black stainless with a light rail with no mim parts in a gun that shoots 2 inches at 50 yards. Please tell me.
Pat
 
Pat,

Oh, I was just taking issue with the "SIG reliability" statement. Seems it ain't "SIG reliability", but rather "Grieder/Wilson/Caspian/EGW/et cetera" reliability. ;)

As for the "2 inches at fifty yards" statement, color me skeptical.
 
LevelHead,
I'd carry a Kahr first, but the P225 - yum. Nothing has ever felt as good in my hand as a P225.
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I once carried a Kahr, but at twenty-five hundred pounds it was a whole lot easier to drive.

Ok, that was stupid. But I did carry a K40 Elite for about a year. As a ccw, it was ideal in every thinkable way... except capacity. That's why I sold it. But my P225... well now that's a keeper. With only two rounds more than the Moonie, I still can't think of any good reason to part with it. And being one of only five or six guns that I can safely claim to shoot double-damn well, I'm not likely to retire it soon.

If you've got one already, hang on to it. If you don't, I'd say get one. They won't be around forever and the pleasures of owning one are incalculable.
 
didn't Ernest Langdon use a P220 stainless to win the Custom Defensive Pistol category of IDPA last year? Beat all the 1911 shooters. I would love to try out a SIG with his trigger job that lowers the pull to 8 lbs DA/4 lbs SA.

www.langdontactical.com
 
So many people have issues with a German made 1911 but I have never heard anyone complaining about Norinco 1911's. Hmmmm, German or Chinese?
 
I love Glocks . . . .

There is just something about their simplicity, reliability and accuracy (at least with mine). That being said the P-225 is just about the sweetest handgun I’ve ever had the privilege to hold and to shoot. I am not even a big fan of 9mm (although that is normally what you would find me with) and if I had enough money to buy the guns I wanted rather than needed, I would go first to the P-220 then the P-225 (love a big fat bullet). However, I still get this warm tingly feeling every time I think of the P-225 . . . Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh . . . .
 
I was shooting holes in a new burn barrel last night with the P225 when I realized I could actually spell things out with it! The next barrel is going to make a statement :D I'll make sure to post pics of it on fire.

Ah, springtime in Alaska.
 
Isn't it a Swiss company and a made in the USA 1911?

Aren't SA 1911s made in Brazil?

MIM? As bad as polymer?

That litany of broken cast/MIM 1911 parts was scary! Sounds like a reason to get a Ruger P90? They seem tough as nails, forged nails, and the whole thing is cast/MIM... know of Rugers and some other newer than 1911 guns full or nearly full of cast/MIM parts going over 100, 200, even 300K rounds w no parts replacements (other than springs).
 
Good Lord, Pat is paraphrasing Jeff Cooper? I feel faint.

The DA/SA thing might be a valid point. I'm interested in one of those new Sig DAK triggers.
 
didn't Ernest Langdon use a P220 stainless to win the Custom Defensive Pistol category of IDPA last year?
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Well, the gun he shot had a frame & slide from a P220ST. Beyond that, it ain't called Custom Defense Pistol for nothing... ;)

Heck, not one part on the GSR is made in Germany. For that matter, not one part on the GSR is even made by SIG.
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It isn't assembled in Germany, either. Hmmm... no German parts OR labor. The GSR is about as German as a hot dog from Wienerschnitzel.

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I have a P239 (9mm) with an LTT trigger job, and a P225 with the SIG trigger action. You know, there's not that much difference. The 239 does conceal better, but I'm much more accurate with the 225. Of the two I'd carry the 239 IWB, and if given the opportunity, I have a shoulder holster for the 225.

On the other note, I love my GSR. Forget all the talk -- when you get the chance, shoot the gun. If you love it, buy one. I can't wait until the black ones come out so I can get another one. IMHO, this gun is more than the sum of it's parts. YMMV.
 
And a quick note about Ernie Langdon. His Sig 220 is pretty much stock. To my knowledge he has done the trigger and action, but all of the parts are Sig.

The thing is Ernie Langdon is really just that good of a shooter that with any quality piece of equipment he is going to be a dominant force in IDPA. I'm a CDP shooter myself, and Langdon could probably beat me with a pointy stick.
 
I've got the hots for the new SIG X-Five...

...I can already *feel* my wallet getting much, much, lighter... :uhoh:

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There is a bigger picture at this thread:

http://sigforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=674608412&f=430601935&m=86260085

and SIG's German site explaining the new pistol.
 
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