Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Brian Williams, Jun 21, 2008.
Cajun, 1970 for that one.
I could use your expertise determining a model number. 38, K frame 6 shot, with 4 screw side plate. Ser. # C150150
this particular one was nickle plated. no model number behind the yolk.
.38 Military & Police Postwar, manufactured between 1948 & 1951 in the serial range C1 to C223998. I believe the C prefix started in May '48, so I'm guesstimating 1950 for your gun. Model numbers were introduced in 1957, when the .38 Military & Police became the Model 10.
Thank you kind Sir!!
I have a 629 classic and need to know the manufacture year? Thanks in advance
a) caliber - 44 Mag
b) bbl length (from cylinder to muzzle) - 6.5"
c) grips shape (round or square) - round
d) number of shots/cylinder bores - 6 shot
e) type of sights. - adjustable
f) serial number, and if there is a letter in front of or anywhere near the s/n on the bottom of the grip - CFH97XX
g) Model number if it is under the crane. - 629-6
skidder: Guns in the CFHxxxx range shipped in June 2002.
Thanks for the quick reply!
I could use a little help.
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 1st Change or 2nd Change manufactured between1906 and 1909 in the serial range 73251 to 146899. 2nd Change has two dowel pins in the extractor.
This gun predate heat treatment of cylinders. Stick to standard pressure lead loads only. No PlusP or jacketed ammo.
It predates the internal hammer block safety, so treat it as a 5 shooter, leaving the hammer down on an empty chamber.
Your Model 19-3 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1975.
Thank you. From the (very little) information on the Internet, I had it narrowed down to mid-late 70s. It's nice to know an exact date.
The best I can fiigure, certain models received certain serial number blocks in the seventies, making at a glance dating a little difficult. Serial range 7k26044 to 7k70577 was used during 1975.
I picked up a K-frame today. 5" barrel, fixed sights, 38 special. Serial number is 541928
Guesstimate 1926-1927. Serial numbers in the 561xxx range shipped in 1927, in the 360xxx range in 1921. Assuming 33,000 guns per year on average, then late 1926 to 1927 seems reasonable. The caveat being that guns were not always shipped sequentially.
The grips are not original. that are post 1969.
a) caliber 44
b) bbl length (from cylinder to muzzle) 6
c) grips shape (round or square) R
d) number of shots/cylinder bores 6
e) type of sights. adjustable
f) serial number BFA33xx
g) Model number M629-2
Thank you for your post...
Your Model 10-5 .38 Military & Police tapered barrel was manufactured in 1969 or 1970. Serial range for those years was D90000 to D330000, so 1969 seems likely.
Your Model 36 Chiefs Special was manufactured between 1962 (serial number 295000) & 1966 (serial number 392778). Assuming 20,0000 to 25,000 guns per year, 1962 or 1963 seems likely.
springer7676: Your Model 629-2 .44 Magnum Stainless was manufactured in 1989. If there is an E stamped after the model number then it has the Endurance Package engineering changes to prevent the gun going out of time when shot with a constant diet of .44 Magnums. If not then it may be wise to have any high round count shooting limited to softer hand loads.
I hope I'm directing this to the correct thread. If not, I apologize.
There are three S&W revolvers that I own, that I question whether it is safe to fire .38 Special +P:
1. Military & Police (pre-Model 10) 5" , sq. butt, Serial # S849XXX, made in 1945 or 1946 (long action, transitional gun).
2. Chief's Special (Model 36) 2" , rd. butt, Serial #244XXX, made 1957-1962 (probably 1960).
3. Chief's Special (Model 36) 3", sq. butt, Serial#738XXX, made 1967-1968.
If +P is fired in these 3 , what are the consequences ?
Thank you for a reply, at your convenience .
S&W do not recommend use of PlusP in guns without a Model number ( pre 1957) This is an easy way to cut out old guns made before heat treatment of cylinders. Heat treatment was used from 1919 onwards. Over the years that I have maintained this thread I have dated a number of K frames with replacement barrels. None of these dated after the late 1920s, which suggests an impovement in steel or heat treatment around that time.
SaxonPig has over 1100 rounds of PlusP through his WWII M&P:
Current .38 PlusP is equivalent to old standard velocity .38 Special:
Bottom line, I would be fine shooting it through any of those guns. I would not expect them to blow up. The J frames may be subject to faster wear, developing cylinder end shake or timing issues if fed a constant diet, IIRC S&W started labeling J Frame barrels as .38 Special +P around 1989. I don't know if there was any change to the steel at that time, r if it was just a change to the alloy of the airweight revolvers.
Radagast, thank you for your timely and valuable info, as usual !
Today I bought a blue S&W 13-3 3" RB Ser# AFC 626X. I would be most grateful if you can supply me with a DOB.
Popeye: Your .357 Magnum Military & Police Heavy Barrel was manufactured in 1984.
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