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Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Brian Williams, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. dapperdon

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    S&w 686

    If someone could give some info such as DOB etc. on this Smith,It would be much appreciated. Thanks

    Model: 686
    Caliber: .357
    Barrell: 6"
    Butt: Square
    Grips: Rubber
    Ser# AAB52xx

    Also the S&W Trademark Stamp is on the opposite side of the cylinder latch?
     
  2. Radagast
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    clockman999: 1968.
     
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    Don't know what happened to my last post, so here we go again.

    dapperdon: Your gun dates to 1980 or 1981. Regular production of the 686 began at serial prefix AAD so your gun is probably a pre series production gun. This probably explains why the logo is on the opposite side from the regular location. There is a recall out for all S&W 686 & 686-1 guns, there should be an M stamped after the model number under the crane if it has been modified at the factory.
     
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    Double post.
     
  5. dapperdon

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    S&w 686

    Thanks for the information.The 686 does not have the M stamped on it.Can you tell me where to find the info on the recall? Thanks Again,Dapperdon
     
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    dapperdon: http://www.firearmsid.com/Recalls/FA_Recalls 5.htm

    From what I have read on this forum, when fired with .357 magnums and soft primers the primer can flow back into the firing pin bushing, locking up the gun. The solution is a tighter bushing and a shorter firing pin.
     
  7. Tailroller

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    Old S&W 44 Mag.

    Any info would be great.
    A. 44 Mag.

    B.4"
    C.Square
    D.6 shot
    E.Combat adj.
    F.S
    154034
    G.No Mod. # think it is a Pre. 29.
     
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    Tailroller: You should have a five screw .44 Magnum, the pre-model 29, made in 1956. In excellent condition the Standard catalog of S&W gave a value of $2500 in 2006 for a four inch barrel gun.

    On behalf of all the S&W nuts here, please post pics!

    PS, 1956 was the year the .44 magnum was introduced.
     
  9. Tailroller

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    Thanks for info Radagast. It's a five screw if you count the one in front of the trigger guard. My father carried it in Vietnam and later as Trooper in the 70's. It's made 100's hunting trips as a side arm and I've taken a few deer with at close range. It's not in perfect shape but it's got lot of history. I was thinking about sending it S&W to have it brought back original cond.
     
  10. Oro

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    Dapperdon - the recall was broad to catch a very few bad eggs. If your guns shoots magnums well, don't worry about it. I have a 686 "no dash" and it works great without the mod. I think only 1% or so of the guns needed it, but they put the recall out for all just to be generous and safe. The other way to think of it is this - the recall is a free roundtrip to Springfield. If you don't need it now, save it until you do (you want some custom work, etc.) and then use it. OTOH, for the long-term collector or "view", the well-built, unmodified "no dash" guns will be worth more in the future. My recommendation, as an owner and collector, is don't get the mod done unless you need it and establish that through primer flow back like Radagast described.

    Tailroller - what a great story. you know, the forum would love it if you got some good pics of it and posted the story in the main revolver forum. Some will tell you not to send it back and leave it original. I say do what makes you happy - if you want to see it "restored to glory" and that makes you happy to honor your dad, do it. S&W will do a good job - send them a letter telling them why, too. They may take some extra attention. I love 29's 629's. A combat 29 is a gem, and if it is really a first year, oh my!

    And like Radagast said, if that's a 1st year pre-29, that is special. A 4" first year 29 is one of my dream guns to eventually find. Get some photos and put it in the revolver section so others can comment and enjoy.
     
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  11. dapperdon

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    Smith 686

    Thanks so much Radagast and Oro for the helpful information.It is very much appreciated!!!
     
  12. rcetnar

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    Radagast:

    Could you give me the DOB on the this gun.

    Thanks


    a) caliber - 38 Special CTG
    b) bbl length (from cylinder to muzzle) - 3"
    c) grips shape (round or square) - Round
    d) number of shots/cylinder bores - 5 shot
    e) type of sights. - Fixed front and rear.
    f) serial number, and if there is a letter in front of or anywhere near the s/n on the bottom of the grip - 5747xx
    g) Model number if it is under the crane. - Mod 36
     
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    Oro
    Thanks for the reply. I think I will send it to S&W to restore. Pop is amoung the departed as of a few years ago, so I'd like to have some engraving done it in his honor. I don't think he new it was special other than it kept alive more than once. He had the red front sight insert changed to white for better use at knight and had black parkerized some 20 years ago but thats got allot of use on it now. It's not to pretty but I'll post some pics. of it and his Bowie he carried with it.
     
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    Tailroller: Do a search on member Hammer It, he has used Ford's restoration service and posted some magnificent before and after photos. Nothing wrong with S&W, but if you want it to look better than new, Ford's may be the way to go.

    rcetnar: Between 1962 & 1969. Serial range was 295000-786544.
    If it has the un-checkered diamond around the grips then 1962 -1968.
    if it has a flat cylinder release then 1962-1966.
     
  15. Oro

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    Yes, Radagast is correct. Ford's does some amazing work and their top-level polish/blue service is stunning. They are in Crystal River, Fla.
     
  16. Noxx

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    Just picked up a 66-2 ($300) that I'd like to find a DOB on.

    Serial is ANA83xx OR 391xx, not sure if it's inside the crane or on the butt on this model.

    .357 mag
    2.5" barrel
    smalle checkered stocks
    orange insert front sight, adj rear sight.

    Thanks for any info
     
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    Noxx: The 66=2 was manufactured from 1982 to 1986. The serial number is always found on the bottom of the grip, it is sometimes duplicated under the crane.

    Your gun should date to late 1985 or early 1986, serial number prefix ALCxxxx was used in November 1985.
     
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    Thanks Rad, knew you'd come to the rescue.
     
  19. circuitspore

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    Picked up this 13-1 'truck gun' this weekend at a gun show. Curious as to the DOB. Pix are below. Thanks!

    a) caliber - .357 mag
    b) bbl length (from cylinder to muzzle) - 4"
    c) grips shape (round or square) - square
    d) number of shots/cylinder bores - 6
    e) type of sights. - erm. not sure. fixed?
    f) serial number, and if there is a letter in front of or anywhere near the s/n on the bottom of the grip - D910965
    g) Model number if it is under the crane. - 13-1

    Any idea what the other stampings on the grip mean?

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    circuitspore, I can't help you with what the various forging stamps mean, I can tell you that the 13-1 was produced from 1974 to 1977, Yours falls in the serial number range for 1976-1977, being D870001 to D999999.

    S&W tend to stamp 'assembly numbers' on on fitted parts as they move through the factory, so they don't become separated of the parts are disassembled. The x5420 is quite probably an assembly number. I
    ve no clue what the others represent.
     
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    I have a S&W Model 17 (no dash) .22, 6 inch, blue, square butt, 6 shot, SN# K 3596XX. Can you give approximate date of mfg? Thanks for your time.
     
  22. TNT-1

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    686 cs 1

    S&W model 686 (no dash) CS 1 Bead finish
    3 inch barrel
    round butt
    6 shot
    black adjustable sights
    ANE 91XX

    Where can I find more information on this model?
    Thanks. TNT-1
     
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    Geezer Glide: 1959. Serial number range for that year was K350548 to K386804.
     
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    TNT-1 The CS 1 was made for the US Customs service in 1988. Two guns were made, a three inch barrel round butt with black ramp front sight and a dull bead blast finish, Marked CS 1. The other was a four inch barrel gun.

    A search on here, at www.smith-wesson.forum.com or www.thefiringline.com should turn up more information.
     
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    thanks Radagast
     

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