I'm very sorry to hear that you got hurt. People nowadays get very emotional about their dogs, and sometimes it seems like the more poorly trained an animal is, the more emotional people get about it. Normally correlation is not the same as causality, but in these instances I wonder. I've had a few dog related stitches, and, not that I think you doubt it, but it's always nice to hear; you did the right thing and handled yourself amazingly well. I'm not one for throwing in personal anecdotes, but I did quite a lot less well the last time I got bitten badly.
If any of your girlfriends ever question carrying
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sargirl,
So sorry to hear of your injuries, and your friend's callousness. But I am glad you were prepared to defend yourself and were able and willing to do so before worse injuries were inflicted. I hope you will continue to protect yourself in the future should it be necessary.
Thanks for offering the details regarding such a painful situation, it is instructive to learn of them firsthand.
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So sorry to hear of your injuries, and your friend's callousness. But I am glad you were prepared to defend yourself and were able and willing to do so before worse injuries were inflicted. I hope you will continue to protect yourself in the future should it be necessary.
Thanks for offering the details regarding such a painful situation, it is instructive to learn of them firsthand.
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Wow, I thought this thread would turn out to be more about the attitudes of girlfriends about their guys who carry.
I carry. I just started going out with a girl who is... not very comfortable with guns. I have not informed her that every time I've been around her, I've been quite well armed. I don't think that "yet" is the time to spring it on her. I will have to acclimate her to the notion of guns for defense over a pretty long period, I think.
Last night when I was at work til 2 a.m., she came over and was waiting in bed for me (yipee!)
and when I woke her upon arriving home, she mentioned the laminated "Exploded Glock" poster that hangs on the wall alongside my bed. She said that when she noticed what it was, it gave her a start! (So y'all can see what it is I'm dealing with, here.)
We are planning to take a road trip soon, and I am not sure whether I will be bringing along hardware. Two reasons: her attitudes about guns, which may not be ironed out by then; and the fact that we will be spending some time in a place where my CCW permit is not recognized. I don't fancy driving all the way from Florida to our destination without a defensive handgun along for the ride... I have some serious thinking to do, I guess.
And hopefully I will be able to get her to the range and open her up to shooting before long. We're pretty into each other, and she's very good about accepting differences between us as it is... I have a sense of optimism about this. If not for getting her to eventually carry, then at least for getting her to accept that I will carry on behalf of both of us.
Blue skies,
-Jeffrey
I carry. I just started going out with a girl who is... not very comfortable with guns. I have not informed her that every time I've been around her, I've been quite well armed. I don't think that "yet" is the time to spring it on her. I will have to acclimate her to the notion of guns for defense over a pretty long period, I think.
Last night when I was at work til 2 a.m., she came over and was waiting in bed for me (yipee!)
and when I woke her upon arriving home, she mentioned the laminated "Exploded Glock" poster that hangs on the wall alongside my bed. She said that when she noticed what it was, it gave her a start! (So y'all can see what it is I'm dealing with, here.)We are planning to take a road trip soon, and I am not sure whether I will be bringing along hardware. Two reasons: her attitudes about guns, which may not be ironed out by then; and the fact that we will be spending some time in a place where my CCW permit is not recognized. I don't fancy driving all the way from Florida to our destination without a defensive handgun along for the ride... I have some serious thinking to do, I guess.
And hopefully I will be able to get her to the range and open her up to shooting before long. We're pretty into each other, and she's very good about accepting differences between us as it is... I have a sense of optimism about this. If not for getting her to eventually carry, then at least for getting her to accept that I will carry on behalf of both of us.
Blue skies,
-Jeffrey
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dpesec ......... two prime things - first, it was not the gun that killed, it was the brother who chose to use it. Second and following on from that - it was just one tool he may have chosen. Convenient yes but if no gun then like as not he'd have managed to OD on some pills, or run a hose from his exhaust into car - etc ... gun=suicide is a falacious statement that a lot of folks employ. A determined person will succeed - by any means.
My wife's bro (many years ago) accidentally shot their grandpap with a rifle - and she too had issues following it, despite her Dad always having his gun (guns) around. She has easily put that problem to one side and now accepts my enthusiasm plus, has her own CCW. She is not a very active shooter but has things well in perspective.
You need somehow to get your ex-GF to see things from this sorta slant - see the positives and logic.
Sorry to drift to side of thread topic here.
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I don't think she an ex yet.
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Oops - just reread - duh! Ok - GF!!
BluesBear
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Welcome ABoard™ sargirl !
Pleased to meet you. So sorry it was under these circumstances.
Welcome to the Circus. You have now seen the elephant.
My brother's birthday just so happens to fall on the 4th of July.
So of course we all have a grand party that day.
Several years ago a former friend of mine arrived, as he had for many years. That year he brought his two year old pit bull. Now this dog had been to my brother's home many times and knew all of us.
For some reason as soon as a he was taken from the car he bolted and proceeded to savagly attack the very friendly, very docile (submissive) dog in the next dog neighbors yard.
Our "friend", his wife and several others all jumped in and it took a good half dozen people to separate the two dogs.
Fortunately the other dog only received superficial wounds. Turns out he was a master of the bob and weave. The pit bull never had a chance to get a good hold.
After the dog was put back into the car the owner remarked, "Thanks a lot for all your help Bear! You coulda done something other than just stand there."
All I said was, "I didn't have a clear shot."
He hasn't spoken to me in four years.
By the way I am a dog lover.
Pleased to meet you. So sorry it was under these circumstances.
Welcome to the Circus. You have now seen the elephant.
My brother's birthday just so happens to fall on the 4th of July.
So of course we all have a grand party that day.
Several years ago a former friend of mine arrived, as he had for many years. That year he brought his two year old pit bull. Now this dog had been to my brother's home many times and knew all of us.
For some reason as soon as a he was taken from the car he bolted and proceeded to savagly attack the very friendly, very docile (submissive) dog in the next dog neighbors yard.
Our "friend", his wife and several others all jumped in and it took a good half dozen people to separate the two dogs.
Fortunately the other dog only received superficial wounds. Turns out he was a master of the bob and weave. The pit bull never had a chance to get a good hold.
After the dog was put back into the car the owner remarked, "Thanks a lot for all your help Bear! You coulda done something other than just stand there."
All I said was, "I didn't have a clear shot."
He hasn't spoken to me in four years.
By the way I am a dog lover.
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SarGirl,
First off I am glad you defended yourself properly in this situation. There probably aren't a lot of women who would have fared so well. I am also glad to hear that you pack on occassion, I do wish my wife would.
I too am a dog lover, like many other posters in this thread. I have owned many canine over the last 17 years, even this will not stop me from putting a viscious canine down.
About 4 months ago I had to have my 7 year old sons Rat Terrier put down. He was a very lovable dog, that was loved by everyone in the family and was always playful. We picked him up from a pound in California about 4 years ago. Recently he had become very viscious toward other children who entered our home. After the first two bites (both superficial) on children that were friends of my sons, I decided he had only once chance left. I regret not putting him down sooner, because the third bite was pretty severe.
In my mind I believed the dog was just protecting his home, but in reality looking back, he just didn't like other people entering our home. Once I decided to put him down, my wife told me there were several other bites I wasn't aware of, three more on adults entering our home. She hadn't told me of these incidents because she knew it would break our sons heart.
I miss him, and I will admit that putting him down was very difficult, because he was soo darn cool. But to be honest, I would rather have him put down, where he can't hurt anyone else, than to have to kill him myself for hurting one of my boys!
You did the right thing.
First off I am glad you defended yourself properly in this situation. There probably aren't a lot of women who would have fared so well. I am also glad to hear that you pack on occassion, I do wish my wife would.
I too am a dog lover, like many other posters in this thread. I have owned many canine over the last 17 years, even this will not stop me from putting a viscious canine down.
About 4 months ago I had to have my 7 year old sons Rat Terrier put down. He was a very lovable dog, that was loved by everyone in the family and was always playful. We picked him up from a pound in California about 4 years ago. Recently he had become very viscious toward other children who entered our home. After the first two bites (both superficial) on children that were friends of my sons, I decided he had only once chance left. I regret not putting him down sooner, because the third bite was pretty severe.
In my mind I believed the dog was just protecting his home, but in reality looking back, he just didn't like other people entering our home. Once I decided to put him down, my wife told me there were several other bites I wasn't aware of, three more on adults entering our home. She hadn't told me of these incidents because she knew it would break our sons heart.
I miss him, and I will admit that putting him down was very difficult, because he was soo darn cool. But to be honest, I would rather have him put down, where he can't hurt anyone else, than to have to kill him myself for hurting one of my boys!
You did the right thing.
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