If James Bond were an american...

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hewouldprobablycarrya1911becauseheisamericannotenglishandisamericanbecauseallamericanslike1911especiallyonesin45acp
 
James Bond is the son of Andrew Bond and Monique Delacroix Bond. His Scottish-American father was a senior accounting manager for General Dynamics, while his mother was originally from Yverdonm Canton de Vaud, Switzerland. When Bond was eleven years old, his parents died in a climbing tragedy while attempting to scale north-east ridge of the Aiguille de la Persévérance. After their deaths, he was homeschooled by his aunt and guardian, Charmain Bond of Saratoga Springs, New York.

From age 14 to 15, Bond attended Phillips Academy preparatory school until "trouble" with one of the maids. He then transferred to his father's alma mater, New York Military Academy. While there he won numerous athletic competitions and twice boxed for the school as a light weight. He also formed an intermural judo league. Throughout his teens, he spent time studying both climbing and skiing with local Austrian instructor Hannes Oberhauser during term breaks at NYMA. Bond's one strong relationship, this friendship ended when Oberhauser disappeared mysteriously. Bond considered Oberhauser a second father.

After graduating from New York Military Academy, Bond began attending the United States Naval Academy. While there, Bond excelled in all areas of training. Bond matriculated from his coursework at the Naval Academy with passable marks. However, whilst excelling at athletic competitions, strategic operations, and counter-intelligence courses, his unconventional approach to his education, his diffident attitude to some of his superiors, and a lack of respect for curfew drew him a few demerits. While at the Academy, Bond was a member of the intramural karate team. He graduated from the Naval Academy with a bachelor's degree in Economics. Sadly, Bond lost his one surviving close relative, his aunt Charmain Bond, a few weeks after graduation.

While at the Academy, Bond decided that he wanted to be an intelligence officer. Soon after his commission as an Ensign, he began a five-month basic course of instruction at the Navy and Marine Corps Intelligence Training Center. After graduating from basic intelligence training, he was assigned to the USS Abraham Lincoln for a six-month deployment as part of a 30-month operational fleet tour. During that time, Bond's natural abilities, mental quickness and confidence impressed his commanding officers. However, it became apparent that Bond was not being sufficiently challenged with his duties. So following his fleet tour, he applied and was accepted for the Navy SEAL training program.

Soon after, he began Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) Training, which was followed by basic parachute training at the Army Airborne School at Fort Benning. He then moved on to SEAL Qualification Training, where he excelled and constantly equaled or bested his superior officers and instructors in all areas after nominal experience. Following his completion of SQT, Bond was placed on board SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team One where he earned his SEAL Qualification Badge (Trident) and served as an assistant platoon commander. For his performance with SDVT-1, Bond earned the Navy Commendation Medal. Following that, he was assigned to SEAL Team 3 as a platoon commander. While with that SEAL Team, his actions during a combat mission earned him the Silver Star. Bond then spent six months of shore duty on a staff assignment at Special Operations Central Command, where he assisted in the operational planning of SDV missions.

After eight years as a Navy officer, Bond retired from the U.S. Navy with numerous commendations and was accepted into the Central Intelligence Agency. Before Bond could join the Agency, he had to go through background checks, take the entrance exam, and go through a series of assessments including psychometric, numerical reasoning, psychological, psychoanalytical, aptitude, and a polygraph test. Upon passing the entrance and psychological examinations, Bond was accepted as a "Career Trainee." After an orientation period, he was sent to the CIA Special Training Center - "The Farm," Camp Peary for intensive operational training. There, he went through the Basic Operations Course, which trained him in so-called "operational intelligence" or "tradecraft" skills. This means Bond was taught to become a master in the finer points of espionage - everything from recruiting foreign assets to detecting surveillance to clandestine communications methods as well as infiltration and exfiltration techniques. He was also trained for night parachuting, clandestine photography, tactical high speed emergency driving, rappelling from helicopters, and dry and wet demolition. Because of his military experience, Bond excelled through training. He received exceptionally high marks for physical endurance, logic, and psychological ops exercises.

After training, Bond was given non-official cover status; that is he became an operations officer without any official connection to the CIA and therefore without diplomatic immunity if ever caught in an act of espionage. His cover was that of a financial advisor to a private military company. While his primary work was recruiting foreign agents and interrogating captured enemy agents; he was also involved in translating communiqués and worked back-channel sources to aid in solving a minor crisis between the U.S. and China. Two years into his career with the CIA, Bond transferred to the Maritime Branch of the Special Activities Division. As a paramilitary operations officer, Bond's clandestine and covert duties took him around the world. He took part in paramilitary interdiction efforts against drug smuggling between Burma and the United States (resulting in a letter of recommendation from his superior) and four days of black ops reconnaissance into North Korea, penetrating naval compounds. Bond worked with members of a DIA Strategic Support Team to penetrate and gain intelligence on Iranian military and suspected unconventional weapons installations. He also saw covert action in the Phillipines, Indonesia, Iraq, Colombia, Somalia, and East Timor. After two years in the Special Activities Division, Bond was recruited into a newly-established and highly unconventional CIA sub-agency called the Optimum Operations Branch.

Funded by money that has been diverted out of innocuous government funded programs, the OO Branch operates in ultra secrecy, independent of the official U.S. government national security apparatus to get around impediments such as the executive order banning assassinations. The missions to which this covert unit is typically tasked with handling are either too sensitive or too risky for traditional CIA entities. It marks a return to classical methods of espionage, enhanced with specialized gadgetry and weapons for the aggressive collection of stored data in hostile territories. Instead of relying on foreign informants, OO Branch field officers (known as "OO agents") physically infiltrate dangerous and sensitive enemy locations to gather the required intelligence by whatever means necessary. In other words, they go back to the nitty-gritty world of human spies out there in the field, risking their lives in undercover espionage missions. Since the OO Branch has no provable ties to the U.S. government, OO agents are authorized to work outside the boundaries of international treaties. Once their orders have been given, there are no required procedures for the fulfillment of the mission. They can use whatever means they deem necessary. Success is all that matters. This unconventional status allows OO agents to disregard any law, agreement, or framework of ethical behavior in order to accomplish a mission. For example, they are essentially entrusted with a license to kill -- the authorization to, at their own discretion, commit acts that might be otherwise considered murder in order to complete their missions, without having to seek permission from headquarters first. However, if a OO agent were to ever be captured or killed, the U.S. government would disavow them. The OO Branch is so elite that there are only nine OO agents at any given time.

Bond was given the cover legend of a senior export officer for an import/export company named Universal Exports – which is actually a CIA front company. After being given the code number "OO7", he was tasked with killing two people. The first was in New York – a cryptologist who had cracked a CIA code and was attempting to sell it to the highest bidder. The assignment was on the thirty-sixth floor of the RCA building in the Rockefeller center. Bond took a room on the fortieth floor of the next-door skyscraper where he could look across the street into his room and see him working. Then he and a fellow OO agent sat for several hours waiting for their chance. The other agent shot at the cryptologist a second before Bond. His job was only to blast a hole through the windows so that Bond could shoot the man through it. Bond did exactly that, shooting immediately after the other agent, through the hole he had made. Even though it was three hundred yards away, he got the cryptologist in the mouth as he turned to gape at the broken window. The other person Bond had to kill was a CIA analyst in Karachi who was selling secrets from within the agency. He'd managed to get two CIA officers captured and killed. For various reasons it had to be an absolutely silent job. Bond chose the bedroom of the traitor's apartment and stabbed him to death after a brief hand-to-hand fight.

On his next mission as Agent OO7, Bond and another OO agent named Carter worked cooperatively in an attempt to capture international bomb-maker, Molloka. At a mongoose/cobra fight in Madagascar, Bond and Carter conducted surveillance on Molloka but, due to a foolish mistake made by Carter, the suspected criminal realized he was being watched and attempted to escape. Bond pursued Molloka through the jungle, up an enormously high construction site and finally to the Zimbabwean Embassy. Bond broke into the embassy, fought off several soldiers and then captured Molloka. Outside of the embassy, Bond held a gun to Molloka's head while surrounded by a large number of soldiers. After an embassy official ordered him to hand over Molloka, Bond pushed him into the arms of the official. However, he them immediately shot Molloka in the head and then a gas line outside the embassy. That caused an explosion and in the chaos of the aftermath, Bond escaped. The incident infuriated the director of the OO Branch, as Bond had only been instructed to capture Molloka, but the criminal's cell phone led Bond to discover a terrorist plot to blow up a gigantic prototype ''Skyfleet'' airliner at Charles de Gaulle International Airport. Bond managed to stop the terrorists from succeeding and killed a man named Carlos, who had replaced Molloka as the criminal responsible for destroying the airliner.

Following this success, the OO Branch director informed Bond that the mastermind of the incident was a man known as Le Chiffre, who served as private banker to terrorists and mobsters all over the world. Le Chiffre had been using his clients' money to short sell successful companies and then would engineer terrorist attacks to sink their stock values so he could make a fortune. When Bond foiled Le Chiffre's plan to destroy the ''Skyfleet'', the banker was left with a major loss since he had shorted the company's shares.

Needing to recoup his clients' money, Le Chiffre had set up a high-stakes poker tournament at the Casino Royale in Montenegro. Hoping that a defeat would force Le Chiffre to aid the U.S. government in exchange for protection from his creditors, the OO Branch entered Bond into the tournament. He was assisted in the mission by a CIA logistics specialist named René Mathis and Vesper Lynd, a liaison agent from the Treasury Department's Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence. She was responsible for managing the mission's funds. Bond went on to win the tournament and since then James Bond has proven himself to be one of the most capable officers in the CIA's employ.
 
This is what an American James Bond would have been issued for carry by the OSS or CIA. http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg216-e.htm

It is sad to say, but just like Francis Gary Powers, an CIA pilot who was shot down in 1960 over the Soviet Union, our American Bond would have carried a .22 LR High Standard (Hi-Standard) HDM OSS.

we would all like to think of our James Bond as carrying a .45 ACP, but the reality of it is the lowly .22 LR was considered the spy caliber until around the Viet Nam war.
 
If James Bond was American, he'd be gay. Plus our James Bond is Martin Riggs and John McClain and they both used Beretta 92Fs. And Jack Bauer uses an HK USP Compact 9mm.
 
In the Goldfinger novel by Ian Fleming, chapter VII discusses the equipment in James Bond's Aston Martin DBIII.

"... a long barrelled Colt .45 in a trick compartment under the driver's seat ..."

I read it recently, one of my children thought I would like it. (Interesting how the book spelled the word "barrelled".)

That was the only reference to the 1911, but perhaps he would carry a Colt.
 
that "long barrelled colt .45" is most likely a single action army. maybe a new service,but probably not.


in the movie it was a walther p38.


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The 1911 is a great gun for a soldier, but not a spy.
It's just too heavy.

He would most likely carry a snub-nose .38 S&W Airweight revolver.
Very reliable, not too loud, very light-weight, and very accurate.
 
He would most likely carry a snub-nose .38 S&W Airweight revolver. Very reliable, not too loud, very light-weight, and very accurate.
Uhhhhh, a Smith & Wesson Centennial Airweight is exactly what James Bond was issued at the start of the 6th book "Doctor No". They took his beloved Beretta M418 .25acp and issued him a .32acp Walther PPK and a Smith & Wesson Centennial Airweight.

BTW: In the first five books, Bond uses three guns normally: Beretta 418 in a shoulder holster, Colt Police Positive with sawn barrel under his pillow, and what is called in the book a "Colt Army Special .45" in the Bentley's glovebox.
 
He'd carry something from DARPA, maybe a death-ray of some kind.
If he was actually carrying something as stone age as a pistol, he'd at least have the best ammo our scientists could make, not off-the-shelf stuff.
 
No customized guns, please.

Hello everyone! New member, first post. It seems only fitting that I should post a reply on page 7 of this thread. I have to admit, I've been thinking along these lines for a while and I've come to realize a couple of things. First of all, it's almost impossible for a single gun to fulfill multiple roles. That being said, if I were a secret agent, my criteria for a daily carry gun would be:
  1. I can conceal it easily
  2. shoot it accurately
  3. find an abundance of ammunition for it anywhere I should happen to be
  4. not care if I dropped it, lost it or the villain took it away, and
  5. it must be totally reliable (go bang every time the trigger is pulled)

What I realized is:
  1. it should be a stock gun (however beautiful, customized and tuned it may be, it would be horrible to lose, drop or have taken from me a $2,000+/- custom piece)
  2. it should be compact to mid-sized
  3. it should be (unfortunately) 9mm

Even though I've never used or handled one, I'd suggest a Sig p239 or a Kahr K9 or one of the polymer framed Kahrs. I think a Glock might be a bit chunky. Which one? I don't know. Whichever the "Company" approved and I could shoot the best.

Now, if it were me. I'd choose a compact for carry, and if I were going into a particularly nasty situation (and knew it ahead of time) I'd pack something that held more ammo (9mm, of course) and would probably try to pick up a rifle off an unfortunate guard as soon as possible.

Take a look at this article about the guns used in Quantum of Solace.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Quantum_of_Solace
 
He would have carried the same thing his
CIA american contact who showed up frequently
in the first few movies. A 2" .38 Snubby I think
it was a Colt. On some episodes in Assault mode,
i suppose for the times, he would have had a 1911.

Randall
 
Nice info on the Semmerling GunTech!

1. His friends would call him Jimmy.

2. He'd have more guns that Hunter S. Thompson.

3. He'd carry a Colt Government Model. He's in the CIA after all!

Lastly, the FIRST man to play James Bond WAS an American as CBS bought the rights to Bond before there were movies, Barry Nelson (died 2007) played Bond, and he DID work for the CIA. He carried a Colt DS or similar small frame .38 revolver.

from Cinematical.com:
Nelson's claim to fame was a 1954 made for TV adaptation of Fleming's novel Casino Royale, created as an episode of the anthology series Climax!. Interestingly, Nelson played Bond as an American, and pre-dated Sean Connery's first Bond film Dr. No by eight years. The Climax! version of Casino Royale is available as an extra on the DVD for the 1967 film of the same name.
 
"Colt Army Special .45" in the Bentley's glovebox.

This was a 1911. In one of the short stories Fleming has him take the safety off and check the magazine.

tipoc
 
A 1911 or a Glock. I know he carries a mouse pistol in the bond movies but all Europeans carry mouse pistols. Americans carry larger pistols.
 
smith and wesson 99 and a PPS for backup..

Perhaps a 3 inch 1911, most definitely not a glock.... James Bond wouldnt carry something so damn ugly as that....
 
If James Bond were an American, he would carry an Automag just like Mack Bolan used to carry. No sissy 380's, 44 AutoMag is the answer. We know that the American Q could make up a super special holster so that it wouldn't appear any larger then the PPK.
:)

JohnnyOrygun
 
I would have to say a Colt 1911A1, in .45 ACP, but perhaps in .38 Super. It could be.
 
If he where an American? A Glock 19: Reliable, size efficient, proven and chambered for the "universal" cartridge.
 
Differentiating between the movie Bond, the book Bond, and a Jim Bond working for the real CIA, I'd stick to the purely cinematic American Bond. In this instance, he'd probably carry a Colt Officer's ACP-size 1911 in .45. He can take his pick of manufacturers. Personally, I'd have him stick with a stock example, maybe a Springfield Armory.

If you wanted to get more detailed, as in a novel, then you can chamber it in 9mm, so when he's overseas, he can find ammo easier than .45 ACP.

We wouldn't want to get too realistic, like looking for what the real CIA uses, as I understand the real agency doesn't put a whole lot of value on firearms and tries to avoid shootouts whenever possible. They're focused mainly on gathering intelligence, not foiling the dastardly plans of international megalomaniacs.
 
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"Colt Army Special .45" in the Bentley's glovebox.
This was a 1911. In one of the short stories Fleming has him take the safety off and check the magazine.

tipoc


if i remember correctly the short story was "view to a kill".

james bond rode a motorcycle in that story. the .45 was not the one in his 1933 1/2 bentley. i don't even think he still had that bentley by that time. i seem to remember it being wrecked in "moonraker"


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