If You Are Going To Bubba A Mosin-Nagant

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...Then I guess all those butterknife Mannlichers are turds too, with their split bridges and 'too far forward of the trigger' bolt handles. Milsurp snobs make my butt hurt. The Mosin, well sporterized, makes one of the most elegant looking sporters there are, with the added benefit of making snobs go berzerk. Whine all you want, and try to insult us by calling us 'bubba', but the fact remains that we take a too-long, hard to use tent stake, and bring out it's true inner beauty and sporting potential. I can't wait to finish my latest project so I can torment you guys with it.
 
I can't wait to finish my latest project so I can torment you guys with it.

Have at it, as many of us have already said, it's your rifle do what you want with it.

Just don't be surprised if some of us don't always agree with you.
 
Bubba'ed...



Sporterized...



There is a difference!
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Real difference: 25 bucks for the prebubba Tula, $8.50 mount, as shown, a garage sale 15 dollar pistol scope and a wally world recoil pad. Result; consistent 2" groups at 100 yards with HC GC boolits for total cost of around 50 bucks.

What is there not to like?
 
Here we go again, trash a guy for what he likes. So much for the "High Road" position of conversation. Its his gun, he can invest all the time and money he wants. It pleases him and that's all that matters, only mistake he made was sharing it with this forum. I like original milsurps also but appreciate well rendered attempts to "sporterize", I do like the D-ring also on the bolt.
What he created is no different then the all wood furniture I,ve seen on AR,s, comes down to preference.
 
Here we go again, trash a guy for what he likes. So much for the "High Road" position of conversation. Its his gun, he can invest all the time and money he wants. It pleases him and that's all that matters, only mistake he made was sharing it with this forum. I like original milsurps also but appreciate well rendered attempts to "sporterize", I do like the D-ring also on the bolt.
What he created is no different then the all wood furniture I,ve seen on AR,s, comes down to preference.

Could you provide any examples of trashing anyone?

I submit to you that there is a difference between trashing someone, and disagreeing with them.

I could be wrong........I look forward to your answer.
 
My opinion, my words. I don't owe anyone an explanation, so I wont play a game of word master with you. If I did, then I would PM. Not wasting my time. Never said anyone had to like it.
 
Here we go again, trash a guy for what he likes. So much for the "High Road" position of conversation. Its his gun, he can invest all the time and money he wants. It pleases him and that's all that matters, only mistake he made was sharing it with this forum. I like original milsurps also but appreciate well rendered attempts to "sporterize", I do like the D-ring also on the bolt.
What he created is no different then the all wood furniture I,ve seen on AR,s, comes down to preference.

Just to be clear- while I'm the one who put up the photos in the first post, it is not my rifle. I came across them on GB. I find most modified Mosin-Nagants to be less desirable but if one were to do so, that one is the most tasteful job I have yet seen
 
Looks like somebody got their tax money back and had too much time on their hands.:neener:

Money and time is not something I would waste making a $100 gun look like a $500 gun that shoots like a $100 gun. I still don't get the M/N craze. :barf:

Get your self something nice...you deserve it.
 
Looks like somebody got their tax money back and had too much time on their hands.

Money and time is not something I would waste making a $100 gun look like a $500 gun that shoots like a $100 gun. I still don't get the M/N craze.

Get your self something nice...you deserve it.

some people just like building guns........there is something rewarding about taking a beat up relic, and making it into a nice hunting rifle.

i built a small bore rig.......put about a $1000 into the entire project......the rifle itself cost $400.......but to me it was worth it because i enjoyed building it, i got to work with my hands, and i learned something in the process....

its no different than the guy who goes to the junkyard and buys a beat up car, and spend the summer restoring it.
 
I do like well done sporters, at the same time I recognize some firearms do have historical significance. If I was able to get my hands on the 1903 that was originally issued to Private York, and had the providence to prove it, of course I would never change a thing on the gun. But the 1903 the was issued to Joe American, the Mauser issued to Fritz German, or the Mosin issued to Ivan Russian...they are fair game for sporterizing in my book.

My Mauser was an incorrect arsenal rebuild without matching numbers...value...$150...maybe. Today it has had much work done, shoots 1 1/4 inch groups with surplus ammo, fits me correctly, and is a pleasure to shoot.

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The other sporter I love is my M1 Carbine. I can't begin to count the number of GI's that converted carbines like this after the war to put meat on their families tables. I searched for a vintage Bishop stock and searched even longer for a vintage Weaver scope. I grew up seeing tons of these on the tables at guns shows and wanted one for years...It fits me far better than the original stock did, the scope is a El Paso 2power post and not only does it shoot great but it has won me a few action matches.

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I have considered sporting a Mosin but I really don't want to add another caliber to the line-up. There are more than enough pristine examples in museums and in the hands of collectors that no one will ever be denied seeing these as originally issued.

Also Properly done a Sporter does hold its value fairly well tho most folks who do them do them because they want a gun that is theirs personally and plan on keeping them.
 
I am reminded of all the Mausers and Springfields that became "custom sporting rifles " . The Mosin is just the last of the genre to become popular ! Most importantly it now puts guns in the hands of Americans !! Which is where they belong .. Kevin
 
Nice rifle, they are money pits though.

Saw one in a pawn shop the other day, barrel cut to 16'' and not re-crowned. The stock was cut down as well, had a big flashlight/ scope mount/ red dot. It looks like something from a buck rodgers rifle.

The shop wants $350 for it and said custom rifle on the tag. I really wanted to say something to the guy who runs the place, but didn't want to mess up his dream world.
 
If I was able to get my hands on the 1903 that was originally issued to Private York, and had the providence to prove it, of course I would never change a thing on the gun
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In basic maybe, as the rifle he used in France was a M1917 Enfield.
 
I dont fix what aint broke, and with some minimal tuneing, I can do headshots to 400 yards all the Do Da day........because I can , and with Mosin Nagants at that.......

If you cant shoot worth **** to begin with, or have bad ammo, no ammount of modifycation is nessessary, unless your fixing something.

Some guys have preference for a certail look or feel, and were not all gonna agree there, so we leave it the eye of the Beholder and simply enjoy what is presented. The original Post has a well done MosinNagant, one that I , as a collector, daily Mosin user and shooter, can see both beauty and usefullness in. Most all mil spec Mosin's just fall under "usefullness".

Looks pretty well done to me, for sure.
 
Originally posted by shuvelrider,

Here we go again, trash a guy for what he likes. So much for the "High Road" position of conversation. Its his gun, he can invest all the time and money he wants. It pleases him and that's all that matters, only mistake he made was sharing it with this forum. I like original milsurps also but appreciate well rendered attempts to "sporterize", I do like the D-ring also on the bolt.
What he created is no different then the all wood furniture I,ve seen on AR,s, comes down to preference.

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Could you provide any examples of trashing anyone?

I submit to you that there is a difference between trashing someone, and disagreeing with them.

I could be wrong........I look forward to your answer.

shuvelrider response,

My opinion, my words. I don't owe anyone an explanation, so I wont play a game of word master with you. If I did, then I would PM. Not wasting my time. Never said anyone had to like it.

But....but.....shuvelrider, weren't you the guy complaining about posts not being up the THR standards.
 
That stock is beautiful and would make almost any old rifle look good. Too bad they drilled and tapped an M39 for that scope mount though.
 
Beautiful rifle there. Anyone that has a brain would be proud to claim it a part of their collection. I don't see any difference between 'bubba'ing a Mosin or tricking out a 'black rifle'. I personally think the AR platform looks like crap. But my shooting/hunting buddy loves them and he hates my collection of older rifles. Fortunately, neither of us is wrong or right. And we can go out and have fun with each other and our different rifles.
Coming onto a thread and bashing what you know is the preferred form of a rifle for many members is definitely NOT THR.
 
She works

may not be the prettiest thing out there but she works
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long, really LONG, if I had to do it again, I would take some off the barrel and watch to make sure I didn't cut too much out for the scope mount.
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Coming onto a thread and bashing what you know is the preferred form of a rifle for many members is definitely NOT THR.
Political correctness is definitely NOT THR. Are we not allowed to have an objective discussion that 'may' involve negative comments? People like Mosins because they are cheap and plentiful. I don't but this is not a class war. They simply hold zero appeal for me. Not their design, the cartridge they chamber, their origin or their history. I see them as crudely manufactured rifles designed and made to equip a starving conscript army. Not a rifleman's rifle and certainly not up to the standards of a good 1903, 1917, Krag or Mauser. There's a reason why those rifles have been made into some of the finest customs the world has ever seen. Not so for the Mosin. You guys enjoy them for what they are but keep in mind that not everybody loves or reveres them the way you do and they might possibly have good reasons for it. That does not make us snobs.
 
Actually both terms are offensive but neither offends me personally because neither applies to me.

Bingo!

How about we all stop being thin skinned if not everyone agrees with us. And get back to discussing the merits of sporterizing a Mosin-Nagant.

Which is after all why we're here.
 
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