Mosin-Nagant sniper

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I found what ive been looking for...

A fine example of a Mosin Nagant (m39 Finnish) in excellent condition, about 85-90% with a WW II era scope and mount on it in (with hammer and scythe on both). all is in excellent conditon. the bore is in really good shape and the stalk is uncut with cleaning rod.

all for $399

what do you guys think?

im going up today to put some cash on it ...
 
The Finnish ones are supposed to be fantastic rifles, better than most bolt-action rifles available today. I don't know what the market value is, but it's probably pretty high.
 
If it is real then that is a great deal (recently people have been putting optics on a regular rifle & calling it a sniper). Even if it isn't an original sniper & the optics are from the right time period (WW2) then it is worth more than $400 (mainly for the optics). However that old saying "if its too good to be true ... " is tickling at the back of my mind.

What kind of store is it in? Someone who rarely has any rifles in there let alone milsurps or someone who has racks full of military rifles. If it the former then you may have found a gem that they don't know about. If it is the latter then buyer beware as they know exactly what they have there.

If they will hold it for you while you check it out further than that is probably the way to go.

Greg
 
the rifle is in a fair sized gun shop with indoor pistol range in the back. they always have some kind of millitary rifle of some sort there. (there is a winchester 97 w/bayonet hanging behind the counter marked not for sale!) as for the Nagant, you can see where the bolt handle has been taken off, bent and re-attached. and the stalk has been modified for the scope mount and the modified bolt handle. there is not even a place for a bayonet and the stalk up next to the barrel is really slim almost all the way down to within 8-10 inches of the breech. the guy was being honest with me, he said the gun had probably been built but the optics and hardware are original. somone has done their homework when they built this one, it looks right.

Still gonna have em hold it while I do some research.

its gonna make such a good ground hog gun!:D
 
It's a tad high, depending on the kind of optics. If it's the small PU scope, these are valuable but not *that* valuable. Some of the older scopes, though, are very rare and would be worth it.

Does the rifle have [SA] stamps on it? If so it was probably re-made into a sniper at the importer's. What's the year of the rifle?
 
Sorry to drop you down to earth but it’s hard to believe that it's nothing but a repro rifle. The original Finnish sniper rifles with scopes were extremely rare from the beginning. Most of scoped rifles used by Finnish army during the war were captured Russian M-N:s or tokarev automatic rifles. In some cases captured Russian scopes were attached on Finnish rifles but the odds that a rifle like this had survived is astronomically small as most of the rifles that saw first line action were scrapped or rebuilt. There was no shortage of factory new rifles at late 40's.

http://www.mosin-nagant.net/fake-snipers.html
 
I think it's been established that it's a reproduction. I missed that it was an M-39--that seals it. I think the price is too high for sure, but still see what the date is on it. IIRC the real M-39 snipers had some odd cut-down stocks and are virtually never seen stateside.
 
Plenty of scopes and mounts entered the market and a lot have been put together by collectors. I bought a Russian sniper when they were plentiful from Dennis Krohl (sp) of Empire Arms.
 
Keep in mind there's a difference between a "fake" and a reproduction sniper. Indeed this one doesn't even sound like a repro, rather it's just somebody's project. The true fakes were designed to fool people into thinking they are genuine snipers.
 
It seems the rifle is on consigment.
i spoke with the guy who owns the rifle and he said it is indeed a "fake"
but is very accurate and reliable. "a top notch tack driver considering its age" he said Id probably be very shocked at the accuracy of the rifle.

we shall see ...
if is shoots well and the scope is good, it will be worth it.
its going to get the guts shot out of it anyway. haha
 
If it shoots sub MoA, who cares if it wasn't used by a Lapplander in the Great Winter War? (Mebbe it was, but not as a scoped sniper rifle). It's worth the sum total of the parts and that's all you should pay.
 
You can buy fake Russin 91/30 sniper for $450.00 currently. Coles Distributing sells original Russian 91/30 snipers for $550 to $650. Finn snipers are so super, super rare, figure any M39 sniper you see has to be a fake.
 
Only a few hundred M39 Mosin Nagant snipers were made. I've read only a couple (like two) exist in the USA. If you find one, it probably won't be sold for less than $10,000.

None of us will probably ever see one in our lifetime, except here. http://www.mosin-nagant.net/sniperphotos11.html


If you want a Finn Mosin with a scope on it: just buy a M39 rifle from Wholesale Guns and Ammo. Buy a Darrell's Scout Scope Mount that won't deface the rifle permanently and destroy it's value. The value of that rifle has been slashed in half because it sounds like some monkey drilled and tapped the receiver. Buy yourslef a new, nice M39 and put a scope on it yourself, in a way that won't destroy the rifle's value. You can design the rifle with the scope you want. Don't buy that rifle. You would just be buying someone else's screw up.
 
I would not worry much about putting a scope on it as the old sporter Nagants are worth more then the originals now. If it dont work out just spend the price of a new 10/22 and work another over.
 
What sporterized rifles are worth more than the original mil-surps? I haven't seen that yet.
 
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