if you could only own one, ar15 or garand?

ar15 or m1 garand


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The M1 / .30-06 combination won two wars. The M16 / 5.56 combination lost two wars. That pretty much says it all.
 
The M1 / .30-06 combination won two wars. The M16 / 5.56 combination lost two wars. That pretty much says it all.

Riiiiight. Because we know the weapon was the problem and not the politics.
 
Ya, and where does the reasoning that could make someone call the "Korean Police action" a win come from?

I went through basic with an M14, but they handed me an M16 when I checked into the 1st Infantry Div. basecamp at Dian - first time I'd ever seen one in person. Everybody joked about it and most everybody honestly believed at first that it was made by Mattel. I mean, the supply guy said so, and all of us were brand new in country not knowing what to believe if it wasn't a sergeant.
 
Garand because I'm a heavy/slow kinda guy rather than light/fast.

And Garand hasn't a high cap or pistol grip to piss off the antis!!!
 
yea I think the M1a/M14 should have been put in this mix. I bet it would be right up there with the AR and the Garand "father".
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Garand.

Someone posted 223 ammo is cheaper.

.30-06 from the CMP is cheaper... you can get 1K rounds for under 300 dollars.

I haven't seen non-steel .223 ammo anywhere under 400 for some years.
 
I have a AR15, an used the m16 in service...I have never fired the Garand, but hope someday I can, I
have owned a Remington 30-06...
I'm not sure how reliable the Garand
is, but it seemed to do a great job in WW2....so am I living in a survival type condition in Alaska? Or am I in
urban warfare right here at the end of the world?.....I choose the Garand because my AR15 won't stop a charging grizzly, unless I'm calm an make a head shot, an I won't be calm!...An I know a 30-06 in urban warfare is going to BUST through walls faster an easier an get the guy behind it better than my AR15.
 
I chose the Garand for ease of caliber conversion, all the accessories available, magazine capacity, and accuracy.
 
Not a fair comparison.. that's like asking 69 camaro or 2005 civic? That being said, I would buy an AR before I would buy a garand, simply because it is a more "practical" rifle, IMHO.
 
The M1 / .30-06 combination won two wars. The M16 / 5.56 combination lost two wars. That pretty much says it all.

Ummmmm.... The M16 was the main rifle for what many consider the most successful invasion in human history.

http://www.time.com/time/photoessays/iraq2003/morris/3.html

The guy on the right, smiling with the MRE is me.
Oh and before anyone says anything, no the SAW is not pointing at me.

This guy was my prisoner. Id'd as Iraqi Lt.
http://www.time.com/time/photoessays/iraq2003/morris/10.html
 
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Let's see -- Rifle chambered for varmint cartridge .vs rifle chambered for big game cartridge, varmint cartridge or big game cartridge. Sorry, but I'm not into small caliber varmint rounds.

Don
 
Ya,....what 2 wars were lost...? You know I still
love my AR, BUT, there is a reason why the military
is FINALLY looking an using the 6.8mm bullet...better
50 yrs. late than never right. I hear the Special Forces
that have them, love them.
 
Pride of ownership, its my DCM M1D.

But for practical shooting, the AR wins on ammo costs and spare parts availability.

--wally.
 
Vietnam and Iraq.

I would buy an AR before I would buy a garand, simply because it is a more "practical" rifle, IMHO.
Practical for foxes and groundhogs! ;)
 
So how did the M16 lose Iraq? On that thought how did the military lose Iraq? Are you basing this statement on actual experience there or from the media who doesnt know what they are talking about regarding the place?
 
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