If you had $1000 to buy a MBR?

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Hi all, this is my first post here.

If you had $1000 to purchase a MBR type rifle for SHTF situations, what would you buy and why?

I ask this because it's my current situation and I'm sure it is doable by much of the american public. Please avoid the "if they could just save up another $400 they could get a _______."

Furthermore, if you would reccomend to me - here are my concerns:

Minimum cal. of .223
detachable magazines
"fairly" reliable
availability of ammo
 
Probably a AK/Saiga in .223. Mainly because its cheaper than a AR so you can buy more ammo and mags.
 
Main battle rifle refers to a large, heavy rifle chambered for a full-sized rifle round (.308/7.62x51). For that, I'd probably look for a used M1A.

If I were to spend $1000 on a ''tactical'' rifle chambered for an intermediate round (.223/5.56), I would personally go for a(nother) Saiga, but in .223. I would convert it back to proper AK configuration, then spend the rest on ammo and Bulgarian waffle mags.
 
You can buy a cheaper $8-900 AR-15 (if you can find one in your area) and spend the rest on a couple of hi-cap magazines. That will eat up your Grand pretty quick. A Ruger Mini-14 with magazines and some ammo will probably get you more for your money but it is less accurate than the AR platform. Depends how wedded your are to your money limit. Good Luck!
 
An AK. Specifically, I'd spend ~$550 on a Romanian AK, ~$250 on a 1,000 round case of Wolf ammo, ~$100 on 5 or 6 extra magazines, and the last $100 on a case, cleaning gear, and other miscellanea.

It would be great to drop the whole $1k on a rifle, but if that's your whole budget and the started reason for having the gun is "SHTF", then you must have ammo and at least a few magazines. Having a dedicated SHTF rifle with one mag and no ammo is a sign of really, really poor planning.
 
At a N Texas gun shop today, the cheapest AR was $1400. The rest were $1800 to $2400. AK's were $800 to $1000, Remington 870's were near $600. It is PAST the time to buy.
 
I can't agree more, it's apparently too late to get a FAIR deal (as in cost of production and fair profit vs. Raising the price because you can)
 
like someone else said, MBR is usually .308 or bigger

that means saiga .308, century CETME/FAL, Romanian PSL, or a hakim

You should be able to find a PTR-91 for just over your budget, but when you factor in the price of mags for it, it's not much more expensive than anything else, and will be more accurate and reliable than most of the other full power rifles in your price range.
 
At a N Texas gun shop today, the cheapest AR was $1400. The rest were $1800 to $2400. AK's were $800 to $1000, Remington 870's were near $600. It is PAST the time to buy.
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this is nothing more than the stores jacking the prices up far more than necessary. wholesale on these guns has gone up about 5 percent from prior to the election. I can find ARs from 750 to 9 and ak's at 550.

as to the question.. it was spending on the gun...not the ammo... choice is easy... definitely an AR..(see above) then invest in some spare mags and ammo... of course if you go with a DPMS AR, depending on the model, you will have enough left over to purchase some mags and ammo as well...
 
I'm with Ian's response,though I might opt for a Saiga AK instead of WASR.

BUT I already own a FAL and M1A anyway.:neener:

Oh btw what is wrong with a lever action or Garand?Do you think the guy looking to rob you will be less scared by a 30-30?Or are you looking to take on a platoon solo?
 
I would buy a service grade M1 Garand through the CMP for $595.00 and use the rest of the money for ammo also sold through the CMP.
 
i would buy a surplus SIG510 in 7.5x55mm for 400 and the rest of the money would go towards a boatload of GP11.
 
Nothing wrong with a Garand at all - I have one, and it's my favorite rifle. But I think the AK's strong points are better suited for a SHTF rifle, where a Garand is better suited to, I suppose, guerrilla warfare in the plains. The AK has a well-known "scary" look, which makes it a good deterrent, compared to the less threatening M1. The AKs lesser sights aren't a big deal, since any justified shooting will likely be at close range. The AK is also lighter and shorter, which makes it more likely a person will actually keep carrying it and thus have it ready if needed, where a bulkier rifle might get tossed in the back seat of the car or elsewhere.
 
I have full in trust in a AK style rifle for function and protecting myself and yes 30 round mags full make you feel more confident for firepower but I have more faith in my Garand or M1A for dropping down food like a deer if need be.7.62x39 will drop a deer I just don't get reliable accuracy enough from a AK to know I wouldn't miss or shoot a deer in the leg when I was aiming at the chest.

Of course some of you guys get better accuracy out of your AK and scope them,I don't.I know that whatever I aim at at 100yds or more with a M1A or Garand I will put that bullet within a 2 inch diameter of my target with stock sights.

Of course you could by a SKS for $300,a case of ammo for $250,that leaves $450 to use to stock up on food,drink,booze and tobacco so you won't have to worry about going out to look for supplies for a while.;)
 
You can get a great slightly used Fal for about 850 if you search. It's the "Right Arm of The Free World" and absolutely reliable.

Cheap mags and battle packs of ammo are available to stack for SHTF. They are already pre-packaged for long term.

If you reload then it's a great round to do it with.
 
If you want .223 I'd buy a stripped lower and start putting together the best (for your purposes) AR-15 that you can for $1K.

If you want .308, I'd suggest looking for either a used Norinco M14 or a used DSA FAL. Even a bare-bones NEW DSA STG58 might be attainable for around $1K.

You could also get a fine AK for $1K if you want to go with 7.62x39. Do your research on AKs!
 
id prefer an ar10 or m1a but if i had a grand to spend id probably look for the best ar15 I could find in that price range. theres many good guns in that price range. rock river arms, bushmaster, and stag are some good choises. If i was going to step up from there my personal favorite is a good old colt. Another decent choise was mentioined above. I picked up a dmps sportical for a plinking gun a year ago. that gun is a tack driver and has never missed a beat. Ive actually got pretty attached to it. It is a handy little gun that weights about a lb less then any of my other ars. Its a joy to carry in the field.
 
I would buy a service grade M1 Garand through the CMP for $595.00 and use the rest of the money for ammo also sold through the CMP.
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The AK has a well-known "scary" look, which makes it a good deterrent, compared to the less threatening M1.
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+1 The AK has many great SHTF qualities
-1 It's not really a MBR
-1 I'm much more interested in the capabilities of the weapon than how it looks. ANY gun is a wonderful deterrent when you're looking down the muzzle.

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If we are talking about a MBR in the sense of .308 or larger I would give a saiga a serious look if I was limited to $1K.
 
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