If you had only one powder ?
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Years ago, HP38 and W231 were two different powders, manufactured by two different companies.
Currently, all HP38 & W231 is manufactured by St. Marks powder company in Florida, and packaged and distributed by Hodgdon.
So, today, it is the exact same powder, coming out of the same shipping containers.
And that is reflected by identical reloading data for both from Hodgdon in recent manuals and on the web.
The same is true of these:
HS-6 = W540
HS-7 = W571
H110 = W296
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Currently, all HP38 & W231 is manufactured by St. Marks powder company in Florida, and packaged and distributed by Hodgdon.
So, today, it is the exact same powder, coming out of the same shipping containers.
And that is reflected by identical reloading data for both from Hodgdon in recent manuals and on the web.
The same is true of these:
HS-6 = W540
HS-7 = W571
H110 = W296
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Don't even have to think twice...W231 all the way!
glockky
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I would have to say power pistol with unique being a close second. I say power pistol because you can get top velocitys out of the 9mm and 45, and it will get a 357 moving pretty good.
scythefwd
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Another vote for Unique or Universal. Im curious about universal.. I keep hearing it meters better, but unique meters perfectly out of my PM (literlly 100 out of 100 perfect throws).
zxcvbob
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Bullseye, Unique, or Herco. It would be tough to choose one over the other.
.357 in the line-up stacks the deck towards Herco, but max loads of the others will work too.
.357 in the line-up stacks the deck towards Herco, but max loads of the others will work too.
CZ57
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In the calibers you mentioned and then some, Ramshot True Blue it will do anything the other powders mentioned will do with equal or better performance. It meters exceptionally well because it is a dense fine grained ball powder which may very well contribute to the low standard deviations you can expect to get. 
Jurist
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I have to say UNIQUE.I use it in my 380ACP.9mm Luger,357 mag and 40S&W.Enough said.
I have to say UNIQUE.I use it in my 380ACP.9mm Luger,357 mag and 40S&W.Enough said.
Swampman
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Are HP38 and W231 the same?
Rather than arguing, go to the source.
If anyone would know, it's Hodgdon, they market Hodgdon and Winchester powders (along with IMR).
Look at their online data, charge weights, velocities and pressures are all identical.
Don't take our word for it, go look for yourself.
http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp
Rather than arguing, go to the source.
If anyone would know, it's Hodgdon, they market Hodgdon and Winchester powders (along with IMR).
Look at their online data, charge weights, velocities and pressures are all identical.
Don't take our word for it, go look for yourself.
http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp
When I started reloading a few years back I decided that one possibile way of finding out if HP-38/Win 231 was the same was to e-mail directly to Hodgdon.
One of their techs was kind enough to reply that as has been stated.....and stated....and stated....and stated - LOL- YES! - they are the same powder and any published load for one will work for the other.
There are a few Win/HP combination pairs that are the same, I just can't locate my list. HP-38/Win 231 is the only powder I use for 4 calibers.
One of their techs was kind enough to reply that as has been stated.....and stated....and stated....and stated - LOL- YES! - they are the same powder and any published load for one will work for the other.
There are a few Win/HP combination pairs that are the same, I just can't locate my list. HP-38/Win 231 is the only powder I use for 4 calibers.
Peter M. Eick
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Unique for me. Not the best, but it can work in everything from 380 auto up to 357 Maximum.
777TRUTH
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For me it would be HP-38 or AA #5
45lcshooter
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+1 for Unique with Power Pistol next. 9mm, 38/357, 45LC love that stuff!
Kyle M.
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W231 for handguns or imr4895 for rifles.
Ala Dan
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Only One Powder
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Universal Clays~! without a doubt~!
Hodgdon's
Universal Clays~! without a doubt~!
Zeke/PA
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Unique,Unique,Unique,Unique!!
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Ramshot Silouette!
Similar to Unique in burn rate but very clean and low flash.
Works well in +P loadings for 9mm and 38 special, he'll I've even used it in 9x25 Dillon!
Similar to Unique in burn rate but very clean and low flash.
Works well in +P loadings for 9mm and 38 special, he'll I've even used it in 9x25 Dillon!
jwrowland77
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Unique by far. I'm loading 9mm and .380 and about to start .357 mag. Great all around powder.
Elkins45
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Unique. There's a reason for the name.
Oh, and it haas been widely reported for years that HP-38 and 231 are the same powder. The differences in the loading manuals are part of the same variability of gun/production lot/human operator that causes different manuals to show wildly different max loads for the same powders. That's especially true of some of the older manuals where the testing was so highly dependent on 'eyeball' pressure readings and less on objective transducer data.
Oh, and it haas been widely reported for years that HP-38 and 231 are the same powder. The differences in the loading manuals are part of the same variability of gun/production lot/human operator that causes different manuals to show wildly different max loads for the same powders. That's especially true of some of the older manuals where the testing was so highly dependent on 'eyeball' pressure readings and less on objective transducer data.
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