If you want to repo a car, get it right!

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Oops, wrong Olds
By Dave Forster, The Forum
Published Friday, August 26, 2005

Memo to all repo men: Make sure you’re going after the right vehicle.

Kailee Sparks, a 20-year-old from Fargo, said she became the victim last month of two misguided repo men.

Floyd Solomon Marshall, the driver who tailed Sparks’ 1994 Oldsmobile Bravada on July 19, was charged with felony reckless endangerment for the incident. He is scheduled to make his first Cass County District Court hearing today.

“I’m kind of the laughingstock around town because of this,” Marshall said Thursday. “You better believe it’s embarrassing.”

Sparks was westbound on Fargo’s Main Avenue, headed to an appointment, when a Cadillac came up close behind her about 11 a.m. The car, horn blaring, pulled alongside, the two men inside yelling at her to pull over, she told police.

Sparks was on her cell phone with her mom, wondering what to do. She thought the men were crazy. She turned left onto 17th Street East in West Fargo.

The Cadillac followed.

“By this time, I was freaked out (and) crying, not knowing what to do,” she told police.

That’s when the Cadillac pulled in front of Sparks and stopped, causing Sparks to rear-end it, according to a police report.

The men stepped out and told her they were repossessing the vehicle. Sparks tried to tell them her boyfriend just bought the car and was waiting for the plates.

“They didn’t listen to me,” she wrote in a police statement. “The passenger (of the Cadillac) took my keys and got into the car.”

Marshall, 65, of Moorhead, said he was only the driver of the Cadillac and never yelled at Sparks to leave her car. He said he was told to repossess the vehicle for Wild Bill’s Auto Sales in West Fargo.

Jodi L. Peterson, who runs Wild Bill’s, said that wasn’t the case.

“Floyd was not authorized to do any of that,” she said.

Marshall had worked for Wild Bill’s in the past, but he wasn’t employed there at the time, she said.

Peterson’s son, 21-year-old Alan Michael Peterson of Fargo, was the second man in the Cadillac – the one accused of driving away Sparks’ Bravada. He’s been charged with unlawful entry of a motor vehicle, a felony, but has yet to appear in court.

Marshall said he’d apologize to Sparks.

“I don’t understand how she was so terrified,” he said.

Jodi Peterson said she offered to pay for the damage to Sparks’ boyfriend’s vehicle and get the couple a night at a hotel. They haven’t responded.

“They were pretty angry,” Peterson said. “And I guess I don’t blame them one bit.”
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God help the troglodyte that would choose to go after my paid-for truck...especially if I'm in it at the time.

TM
 
By this time, I was freaked out (and) crying, not knowing what to do,” she told police.
Are we afraid to teach our daughters how to handle dangerous situations? She should have reacted to this as a threat to her life with a couple of well placed rounds to center mass.
 
Jodi Peterson said she offered to pay for the damage to Sparks' boyfriend's vehicle and get the couple a night at a hotel. They haven't responded.
Ya think?!?! To heck with the "damage," I'd like a new Jag. The Type S looks good to me.

Jeez, I hope this never happens to me. Dunno how I would feel watching the police photograph the pile of brass.
 
To quote a Pat Travers song, "Boom Boom, Out Go The Lights".
Biker
 
1. Wild Bill's claims the 'repo men' weren't working for them.

2. Wild Bill's immediately offers to pay for the damage plus a night at a hotel.

:scrutiny:

Those repo boys are lucky they ran into a victim instead of a citizen.
 
1. Wild Bill's claims the 'repo men' weren't working for them.

2. Wild Bill's immediately offers to pay for the damage plus a night at a hotel.

3. The son of the owner of Wild Bill's was one of the repo guys. :eek:
 
Marshall sounds like a real person, thought. He's probably an ???????, but he evokes a little sympathy from me for talkling to a reporter and admitting he was stupid.

If I was a judge that would take a year off of the sentence.
 
Yep. In my neighborhood, they'd likely have been hauled off to the morgue
I'm not saying I disagree, but would that have been a good shoot?
It doesn't mention the men brandishing weapons- unless you count their vehicle...
I'm assuming those suggesting to shoot, would do so when the men exited the vehicle. What is the justification? Fear of the two men killing you will their fists? I just wonder if the victim would then be arrested for murder.
No saying that such a situation may not warrent shooting, but I'd worry over being charged/convicted.

Additionally, why were the repo guys not charged w/grand theft auto?
 
If this had happened to one of us I would think we would have assumed that this was a car jacking. If forced to stop and they were getting out of their vehicle(s) I would think that I would have drawn my weapon and exited my vehicle. I should hope the sight of my gun would have convinced them to throw up their hands or retreat, thus saving them from being shot.
 
In any state that is at all reasonable, I think this would have been a good shoot. I am not a lawyer and I am just giving my opinion, but if a woman driving alone, at night, was basically run off the road, blocked in and then approached by two men demanding the keys I think she is justified in believing that her life is in jepordy.
 
In any state that is at all reasonable, I think this would have been a good shoot. I am not a lawyer and I am just giving my opinion, but if a woman driving alone, at night, was basically run off the road, blocked in and then approached by two men demanding the keys I think she is justified in believing that her life is in jepordy.

Except it was 11 am, but still...
 
Sounds a lot like a carjacking to me . . .

"Thump-thump, erp.
Thump-thump, erp.
Thump-thump, erp. Vrooooooom."
(that's the sound of Bravada driving over ersatz repo-dummies, backing up, driving over agian and driving off) :evil:
 
2 men vs 1 woman=Disparity of force anywhere in these states.

They don't need a weapon to put you in fear of great bodily injury or death.

The time of day means nothing except that maybe you'd get a good samaritan to put them down for you if they pulled it in the daytime.
 
That is *NOT* how cars are repossessed, PERIOD.

These guys are friggin nuts. Even if you have to do an involuntary repossession (they actually *ask* first), you do it when the car is parked and noone is around. If she has simply shot both of these idiots it would have been perfectly clean in just about any state of the union. I cant believe these guys have actually been doing this for any length of time. Repo men get shot at enough as it is without pulling idiotic crap like this.
 
“I don’t understand how she was so terrified,” he said.
I dont either. After having two men follow her while ordering her to pull over, eventually blocking her vehicle and possibly forcing her out of it, she should know that she's not about to be robbed, raped, murdered, or all three, and that the BGs are just a couple of repomen trying to repo the wrong car the wrong way.

She has no reason to be upset, and should apologize :rolleyes:

The car lot should at least throw in a high-quality pushbar, in addition to the cost of repairs they've agreed to pay.
 
:scrutiny:

Uh.

Repossessing the car while the driver is in it is dumb. Probably illegal, too.

Repossessing the wrong car with the driver in it is in the same league as a SWAT team going through the wrong door.

There are some things in life you just gotta get right. This is one of 'em.

Mike
 
I'm with Mike.

You can be as unarmed as possible. When you try to get into my vehicle, I will take that as evidence that you mean to kill me or to cause me great bodily harm. Maybe you mean to run over me after you throw me out of my vehicle. Rather than find out for sure, I think I'll just shoot until you stop trying to get me out of my vehicle.

Now it's possible that a jury will be swayed by the DA that I should have used my X-Ray vision to know the poor guys were unarmed. Not going to do them a lot of good, now is it?

It's real simple.
Be real sure not to attempt to gain access to my vehicle when I'm in it, my house when I'm in it, or to lay hands on me. Due to health deficits, I can no longer put up a significant physical defense. Unfortunately for attackers, that means that my rules of engagement are different than someone who can mount a reasonable defense.
 
Being in the car business for 25 years I can tell you repo guys are not Pre Med students.

Rocket Scientists arent pre-med students either.

In fact ive met some ASTOUNDINGLY dumb students in pre-med. Its just an undergraduate program that *anyone* can enroll in.
 
In fact ive met some ASTOUNDINGLY dumb students in pre-med. Its just an undergraduate program that *anyone* can enroll in

LOL. So true. I knew a lot of pre-med students and took classes with them in college. maybe 1 out of 20 of them were in any way impressive.
 
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