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Illinois, all you need to know

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Tom Bri, Jun 15, 2007.

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  1. Tom Bri

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    Well, geez, our very own Don Gwinn. I wasn't aware of his blog before reading this post but I must say that is about the most comprehensive (and entertaining) overview of Illinois politics I've ever read. Brilliant. I'll have to check back often. Nice work , Don.
     
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    Now that the Sopranos is off the air, you can get your gangster fix by watching Illinois politics. Illinois is a pay to play state and there are no laws governing campaign contributions. Everything from state jobs to contracts with the state is openly sold by the politicians.

    They don't whack each other like on The Sopranos, but they do have turf wars over what party collects the payola from what area.

    Illinois, where political corruption is more then just a hobby, it's a way of life.

    Jeff
     
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    And if you get tired of watching "The Shield" (or "LA Confidential") you can watch the videotaped crime of the week committed by a Chicago cop.

    Can ANYBODY in Illinois (nevermind Chicago) explain to me how and why Detective Alvin Weems isn't under indictment for murder?
     
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    I just read both articles, he makes a lot of good points. a lot.

    I hope we ALL can convey to not just chicago, but NEW YORK, CALIFORNIA, and DC that the erosion of their rights just hasn't worked. Crime is as high as it ever was, i just don't understand it...
     
  6. Tom Bri

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    So this guy is a THR member?

    Great! He should cross-post his writing over here.

    I really liked the way he laid out the population numbers. I had sorta realised this, but not just how bad it is. We gotta start convincing some Chicago voters. I suggest we start in some of the swing voter districts. Too bad the graveyards all vote straight ticket.
     
  7. Don Gwinn

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    That's exactly why I wrote that--I think that's pretty common. It's staggering when you look at the hard numbers, and too many downstate still think we can just cut Chicago off. I enjoy a good "trading Chicago to Wisconsin for cheese" joke as much as the next guy, but since we know none of that is going to happen, we have to deal with Chicago or we just aren't serious.

    I'm glad you like the posts. I want to put together a primer so people will have a basic grounding in what Illinois gun politics are really like. I'm not really an expert, but I know enough to help people from outside Illinois understand what's going on, and of course, my own biases slip in there, too.

    I know it looks long-winded, but that really is only Part I. I want to do the thing in several parts, with each one being a longer summary of one particular topic. So far, I plan on having these topics:

    1 and 1.1 were quick skims of the influence of Chicago on the rest of the state. If you read a lot on THR, it probably sounds trite, but I meet people who don't understand it every day.

    2. What the FOID is, how it works, what is to be done about it.

    3. Prohibited weapons in Illinois (full auto, suppressors, AOW's, "switchblades")

    4. Concealed Carry in Illinois

    5. "Fanny pack carry"/"Six Seconds to Safety

    6. Illinois Pro-gun groups--infighting, cannibalism, and the major changes happening right now.

    7. Illinois anti-gun groups--bluffin' like blowfish, yo.

    8. Illinois grassroots action you can take, broken down by time/money required. I.E. what you can do in ten minutes per week, what you can do in a few hours per month, one Saturday per month, or one day per week.

    9. Great places to shoot in Illinois.

    I'm sure some things will be added over time, and the order will probably change, but this is the basic outline of what I want to do.

    But for now, I think I'll just go post my favorite Chicago-is-the-capital story.
     
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    *Ahem*

    What makes you think we want Chicago? *Especially* in exchange for our precious cheese?

    Can't we just like, evacuate the people to California, then turn Chicago into a new parking lot? It'll drop the price of lakeside parking in IL...
     
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