I'm thinking I'm going to order an NAA super companion

[MCgunner]

Oh, BTW, I've been carrying the thing as a back up today. I am going to fire it tomorrow, or when ever I get to the range this week and put it back up. Just had a hankerin'. It was backin' up my .45ACP, so I wasn't lightly armed or anything.

 

[BHP FAN]

it is...didja get the 3f or the 2f?The first time I bought it,I did't realize it came in different grain size like real powder until I got it home.

 

[MCgunner]

I got 3F, was a little taken aback by the velocities they were quoting in rifles. I guess the stuff is safe in rifles. I might back off the charge from my normal 90 grains, though, if I try it in the Hawken. I bought it for the revolvers, though, and specifically hope it juices up the little .31 a few FPS. The thing is in the 700 fps range with pyrodex and the 60 grainers. I'm noping I can get it in the 800s, anyway. Don't wanna push it TOO hard, owing to the brass frame, but it's only a .31 after all, has the Remington top strap for strength, and I think it can take it. I may back off the charge for shooting, but I wanna see what it's capable of with the 777.

 

[azyogi]

MCgunner, just wondering have you ever ran any 60gr. Aguila .22SSS over a chrony out of your NAA 22LR. I have both the 22WMR and the 22 super companion, I got to wondering what a 60gr rn at magnum speed whould do [in ft/lbs] if one could push one that fast from a NAA, Companion or WMR? The .22SSS looks like an extra long bullet on a 22 short case, to give it the overall length of a .22lr. If you could load that 60gr. bullet on a long rifle case it would still fit in the conversion cylinder that came with my NAA .22WMR. [[60gr @ 1000fps =131ft/lbs, and @ 1100fps 161ft/lbs [IIRC]] To fit that long of a bullet in a companion cylinder you'd have to back bore it some but that'd just help with the 2gr load of bsey. Or am I just whistlin dixie here?

 

[MCgunner]

MCgunner, just wondering have you ever ran any 60gr. Aguila .22SSS over a chrony out of your NAA 22LR. I have both the 22WMR and the 22 super companion, I got to wondering what a 60gr rn at magnum speed whould do [in ft/lbs] if one could push one that fast from a NAA, Companion or WMR?

Just looking at the NAA site, 40 grain stuff they list is under 1000 fps in .22 mag 1 5/8" guns. It seems to take a mini master to wake the things up. The CCI +V 30 grain stuff is more comparable to the 30 grain conicals in the super companion with the 2 grain B'eye load.

I've never fired an Aguila round. I settled on the federal for its accuracy and point of impact in my gun. I have gotten in the mid 700s with remington thunderbolt IIRC, but the federal lightening is a little faster and carries a 38 grain hp bullet vs the thunderbolt's lead 40 grain. I'd expect a 60 grain pill from the LR to be pretty pathetic. Might be able to see the bullet in flight if it was a little bigger. But, no, I haven't fired such a round.

Might could shoot that 60 grain pill, but you'd have to get it out of the case somehow without boogering it up. My inertial bullet puller doesn't go that small. I haven't fully explored the possibilities in casting .22 bullets. I don't know if one could cast those 30 grainers NAA sells. I'm guessing they're swaged. I don't have bullet swaging equipment, but might be an answer. Lot of money to spend on a friggin' super companion, though.

 

[MCgunner]

Oh, the 777 thread is going, but 777 turned out to be a big flop in the gun. It barks loud, but it produces pathetic numbers. The report from the stuff is deceiving, all bark and no bite. Seems to be burning most of the charge outside the gun. Same phenomenon I find when shooting 125 grain .357 out of 2" barrels.

 

[batjka]

I'm very surprised to hear that 777 performed worse than Pyrodex P. It souns like compressing the load brings up the pressure and the velocity. Maybe 777 should be compressed in the Companion to get better results. It shouldn't be dangerous as it obviously is capable of handling smokeless pressures.
Please keep us posted. I hope to see some penetration test soon as well.
Thank you for this topic.

 

[MCgunner]

I'm very surprised to hear that 777 performed worse than Pyrodex P. It souns like compressing the load brings up the pressure and the velocity.

From my results and the discussions on this board, I've about decided that's the case, myself. The .31 sorta proved that, too, when a lightly compressed load goes 700 fps and a heavily compressed one goes 900 fps.