IMI Israel's New Rifle

[garrettwc]

Caught a segment on History Channel about this:

Very cool toy. Wish we could undo the import ban.

 

[AirPower]

there was some kind of plan to import the Tavor.

 

[another48hrs]

Barrett was supposed to bring in a civilian version of the tavor, but I think I read somewhere that it fell through.

I do have some good news though, the Hezi(a 30 carbine bullpup) has a good chance of coming into the US. This is the email I got from the company.

"We intend to offer the HEZI in the second half of 2005, but do not have a date yet."

 

[SoundWave]

The second, and I mean the second, the Hezi comes out I'm buying one. It looks SOOOOO cool.

 

[Brick]

Never gonna lay my hands on that new IMI rifle. Ever.

So ugly, I'd fight with a handgun instead.:banghead:

 

[chevrofreak]

The Israelis were thinking about having the Tavor built in the US, so they could use the money we give them to buy it.

 

[robear]

Saw the History Channel show also..

Being a lefty, I am usually turned off by bullpups, but right before a commercial they put a graphic that explained that the rifle could be converted to left-hand quickly, with no tools...

Looks OK to me..

R

 

[Warbow]

I'd love to have one. The only thing is that whoever was importing them would have to put 10 US made parts on it, right?

 

[Langenator]

Couple of things I don't like about the Tavor, at least as a combat rifle, both after seeing the History Channel bit and looking it up on the web:

1) No back up iron sights.

2) It uses a similar 7-lug bolt setup to the M-16. I really, really hate cleaning the star chamber. Not sure how much a gas piston action will help keeping crud out, but that feature is a pain to clean thoroughly.

3) It's still a poodle shooter. Although, the IDF has extensive counter-terrotist/guerilla experience, and don't seem to see the need for anything else.

 

[Warbow]

Langenator wrote:

1) No back up iron sights.

I had a video clip from an industry trade show with an IMI guy showing it to the guy with the camera and it had flip up iron sights.

 

[garrettwc]

No BUIS is a negative, but this would still be a cool toy to have. The HEZI looks really slick too.

Tavor, Hezi, Steyr AUG, all variations on a theme really, but cool nonetheless.

 

[mattf7184]

There is supposedly a Hezi .223 coming out as well.

 

[another48hrs]

There is supposedly a Hezi .223 coming out as well.

I should of asked them about that. I think I might have to send them another email.

I read somewhere on the net that some Israeli company is setting up shop in Texas, so it might be these guys.

I had a video clip from an industry trade show with an IMI guy showing it to the guy with the camera and it had flip up iron sights.

http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=324

The link is at the bottom of the page, be warned, it's huge.

 

[Warbow]

That's the one, another48hrs. Thanks.

 

[Bigfoot]

I just wish someone would build a bullpup that didn't have a 15" or longer LOP. It's odd having both hands so far foreward, especially when they balance at the grip.

 

[fslflint]

thats funny you mention the huge LOP on bulpups. I love bulpups, but thay have allot of problems. the LOP, the (mostly) RH eject...etc. so I designed my own. 11.5 LOP and bottom eject in .308. heres a design pic

 

[Nightcrawler]

fsflint, let me know when you've got your first production model. I'll buy it.

 

[Langenator]

Actually, the incredibly swoopy looking FN2000 features forward ejecting.

FN2000

 

[fslflint]

well NC, I'm working on a 9 mm carbine proto ( project F9C ) right now but that should be done in a couple of weeks, then I start on the bullpup prototype. the only problem is that I don't have a barrel yet. so if anyone wants to send me a barrel just PM me. other than that if all goes as planned it will be between 2 and 4 years before they go into production.