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I just hope this results in some US mfg making NON MAGNETIC, non corrosive 5.45. Other than $$$$$hornady$$$$$.
Import ban on 7n6 5.45 x 39 ammo?
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Yeah, who makes this within the US aside from Hornady? Hornady is $20+ a box and Wolf was $8.80 a box for non corrosive, corrosive surplus was much cheaper than that. I just don't get these laws. Knives and broadhead arrows can penetrate soft armor real easily yet they are regulated like this, just saying.
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Yep, hornady's cases are steel.
The rules should be changed by CONGRESS so that the ATF can only ban imports of "AP"rounds of a certain caliber if a pistol is available for purchase on the commercial market during a calender year.A pistol must be delivered within 1yr from the date it was ordered from a distributor or mfr for the ban to remain in effect.A minimum of 500 pistols from ANY and ALL mfrs must be serialized for the ban to remain in effect.Cobbled together prototypes and vaporware will not count.The pistols MUST be available on the commercial market for a ban to take effect.The ATF is gaming the system,and Congress needs to spank them by clarifying the rules and penalizing the ATF by cutting their budget every time they try these little shenanigans.
I would never pick this caliber over 5,56x45. The 5,45x39 is only used in some former Soviet Republics while 5,56 seems to be world standard for military battle rifles. The same holds for 7,62x25 and 9x18. I mean pack of 50 9x19 Federal HST 124gr is about $29 while 25 pack of Hornady JHPs for 9x19 is about $20.
Well, as they say education in America very, very expensive.
Well, as they say education in America very, very expensive.3 pack of empty ammo shipping crates for $10.00
http://www.usacsales.com/misc/empty-wooden-crate
http://www.usacsales.com/misc/empty-wooden-crate
It's cheaper just to buy the Wolf and Brown Bear lead core steel cased stuff.
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Even though this appears to be a backwards perspective, this temporary (or long-term) ban on All imported 5.45 ammo is just more proof of the need to first buy the ammo, then the gun.
It looks like prices for Saigas (5.45), Tantals and AK-74s will be dropping a bit, does it not?
One day in the distant future possibly even Russian-made 7.62x39 could be banned.
It looks like prices for Saigas (5.45), Tantals and AK-74s will be dropping a bit, does it not?
One day in the distant future possibly even Russian-made 7.62x39 could be banned.
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tyeo098
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I sure hope so. Gives gunsmiths who can rebarrel a lot of stuff to work with!
JustinJ
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Sucks but I've pretty much moved away from surplus 7N6 after reading about the toxicity of it's fumes. According to a book I have, the ammo stockpiles posed a dilemma after East and West Germany were reunified because East had tons of it but West thought it too toxic to use. Unfortunately the book had little other detail but its not hard to believe that the health and safety of Soviet soldiers was low and the priority list when it came to ammo production.
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It sure does stink, that's for sure.
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That wouldn't surprise me one bit.
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I was going to add a 5.45x39 AK to the safe, but this nonsense has put a stopper to that. I saw a Romanian SAR-2 AK74 for $499 at the LGS two weeks ago and almost picked it up. Now i'm glad I didn't because surplus ammo is not available anymore.
Does anyone know How long will the importation ban last? Does it have a sunset i.e. the AWB or just whenever they feel like repealing it?
You are wrong. There is absolutely no ban on imported lead core 5.45x39. Form 6s are being held up for corrosive steel core 7n6 surplus ammo. The commercial stuff is unaffected.
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5.45 ammo is plentiful. 7n6 has gotten a bit scarce, but it's stinky and corrosive anyway. Dan's has crates for $409 as of today...
Let's not get all paranoid.
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I think I might be going with 7.62x39mm for my first AK... :'(
I wouldn't hold my breath for repeal. it fits the govt definition of armor piercing and is subject to the same ban on all other similar ammo that can be fired from a handgun. 7.62x39, .223/5.46, and .308/7.62x51 steel core ammo (with an exception made for M855) is considered armor piercing and banned from importation. It would take a cchange in the law, or at the very least, interpretation of the law, to allow importation of steel cored ammo in any caliber that kind be fired from a handgun.
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wow, some of the comments i see on here are sickening to any real gun owner.. along the lines of "i dont use 5.45, so who cares what happens to it".. and everyone should give a damn about this case because complacency only gives the ATF the green light to put restrictions on other types of ammunition and firearms they have no jurisdiction to do.. and frankly the "i dont care because it doesnt effect me" selfish attitude is only going to hurt you in the future when the anti gun community has been allowed to use things such as this to pick up more momentum to pass even more restrictive laws that will effect you later.. if you cant stop it on a ban they had absolutely no justification to make, then you'll never be able to
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Why? There is just as much commercial 5.45x39 as commercial 7.62x39
Surplus 7.62x39 was banned from import a decade or so.
You'd be stuck buying commercial either way.
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