In 338 Lapua, Anything Better than TRG 42?

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So I want a 338 Lapua. Since the new 1:10 twist barrel was announced, the TRG 42 has my eye. So does the Barrett 98B but it is a ghost at this point, at least according to my dealer. Same with the Armalite AR 30, which just based on appearance looks a little rough compared to the other two.

It kills me to buy a non-American rifle. However if the TRG is the premium gun, they will get the business.

Basing on accuracy, reliability, durability, overall quality and ergonomics, is there a better production 338 Lapua out there than the TRG 42?
 
Welding Rod -

I'm sure that Holland & Holland will build you a very nice double,

If you ask nicely!

Sorry, couldn't resist........


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Isher---Thank you for the sore ribs!!:D

Welding Rod---There are several production rifles and many customs that will rival the TRG. It is one of my favorites but there are many VERYgood ones.

I have heard that the TRG is going to be or already is being offered in a tighter 1:10 twist to stabilize the heavy and long SMK,etc.
 
If you want to buy American, you may consider waiting for the new Savage 110 BA in 338 LM. 9 twist. About 2 grand. More info on their website.
 
The TRG is a great all around rifle with an outstanding trigger, but I would also take a good look at a Desert Tactical SRS (what can I say...Krieger + Bullpup = Tasty Goodness), AI, and if your budget doesn't allow any of the above...the Armalite looks to be a pretty decent contender as well (but I wouldn't expect it to outperform the aforementioned rifles that are double the price).

:)
 
Weld whats your budget looking like for the .338
there are tons of manufacturers now but you could always go the custom route too
GA precision,Tactical Rifles, Surgion Rifles and several others will build you exactly what you want

of the ones ive seen reviewed the Accuracy International AWSM or the TRG are the ones i keep hearing the best things about other than that most of the newer ones havent hit shelves long enough to get good or bad news

i am interested in remingtons modular system but thats still a ways out for anyone other than military buyers i think
 
the dta and the ai/aw are both pretty expensive. Bang for the buck would be the sako or the remingon but I am not sure about the twist on the remington. I have heard alot of good words about the rem on snipers hide recently. they are a little hard to find right now but they are much less than the trg and especially the dta and aw.
 
I recently picked up a Remington in 338 lm. It seems well built and the recoil is not to bad with 250 g. The 300 g bullets start pushing back a little though. I cannot speak to accuracy yet 'cause the new leupold I put on it is wacked...kind of disapointed as I have have lots of those scopes and none failed to hold zero. This one was all over. Changed to another 30mm scope from my 300 rum and it settled down immediately. I like the 40x trigger...compares to my stillen. I put a 20 moa rail on it. When the new scope comes I will find out what it will do. I hope it is accurate cause it is more fun to shoot than I imagined. The price was right also. 1200.00
 
The TRG is not better than the AI Artic Warfare. It may be a "better" value price wise, but it's not on par with the AI.

The TRG however is better than the AR30.

I believe the longest confirmed kill was a Canadian sniper team using a McMillan Tac50.
 
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Casefull, What loads do you find accurate for the RUM? Rutumbo is a ball of rire w/100gr behind a 225 accubond. It's not as fast but for a 2700fps w/250sgk is 85 gr of H4831. I have a stainless synthetic, added a limbsaver pad,and live with the recoil.It's as accurate as I am off the bench,so I'm not going to brake it and take a chance of changing the way it shoots.
I do have to give Remmington the nod,It has 1-10 twist barrel,and it's weight is such I don't mind carrying it.I have an older 3-9 leo in the lowest mounts I could use to keep my face from being beat.
If money was'nt an issue,I'd look at Barrett,in part because of Ronnie's policy on ca sales and service,and because in these times I would want to spend my dollars in USA.
I do admire those of you who have the bucks to buy the neat toys posted.
 
i don't have much experience with any of them, but your dealer is mistaken about the barrett being hard to find. if you're serious, pm me and i'll give you a number to call.
 
using that logic, desert eagles would be the overwhelming recommendation for carry pistols
 
heh, ahh, i misread the intent of your post

i haven't got to shoot one of those either. have handled them a few times. my only gripes thus far are their politics and the price of ammo
 
There is a European shooter that uses the TRG and routinely wins compititions with them.If memory serves he has the most wins.He has said that the tighter twist coming out should prove even better.

Wish I could remember his name...I will look it up and post it here so others can confirm. There is nothing wrong or cheap about the TRG. The ONLY advantage the AI has is the ability to stabilize the heavier projectiles. In real field useage it makes little difference as even most cream-o-the-crop shooters can not truely take advantage of that.

Custom rifles however can be configuered to have longer magazines for longer COAL and for those that feel they need it larger heavier rounds can be easily worked up.---A bit of a side note,the current trend for longer existing catrdges to be loaded with longer COALs,the .300WM is closing the gap with the .338LM in it's original loading.

I do remember some reports of stocks breaking on the TRGs but that is supposed to have been addressed. May want to look into that...!
 
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A bit of a side note,the current trend for longer existing catrdges to be loaded with longer COALs,the .300WM is closing the gap with the .338LM in it's original loading.
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Really? I have doubts that it is *that* good...but I am still glad that I chose the .300WM as my LRPR platform.

:)
 
Ah,we meet again...

I have my doubts too but on paper it seems to be the case,to an extent. You and I both know that simple weight and velocity do not always make the grade. However in this case,between these two it should prove interesting.

Keep in mind that my stats are not 100% here more than likely:eek: but here goes...

One of the .338LM's original loadings was with a 250grn. bullet @ 2100fps or so.(just short of the original goal of the 8.58x71 parent cartridge.) Well with the deeper throats being used in several builds and I believe the new Navy specked .300WM it can now push a 250grn. .30cal. projectile at 2150fps or so...It may just buck the wind a tad better and it deffinately has a superior SD. Thing is I think it will be quite lacking in versitility for most of us.
 
build a .338 lapua.

I have built 2. one on a model 70 receiver and the other on a 700 receiver.

Mcmillian stocks on both and one had a hart barrel and the other a krieger.

both were full up custom guns built to my specifications.

each gun cost around $1500 to build (could have gotten cheaper stocks, but Mcmillian is the only way to go (other than AI) for stocks).
 
Jefferson, I have not shot the rum a lot at distance. So far the 200 g bullets at just under a 100 of retumbo seem the best. One of the things I have become more aware of with rifles is the drop in efficiency with the smaller bores. You get more push from the same amount of powder with the larger bores. I think the 100 g in 30 cal is about the sensible limit. I shoot a 375 h&h and it moves a 250 g at 2600 with 80 g powder...better than the 338 and lots better than the 300 rum. I want to get out in the desert this spring with 300 g matchkings in the lapua and see what it will do way out there. I want to get some 300 g high bc bullets for the 375 and do some comparisons with the 3 rifles.
 
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You get more push from the same amount of powder with the larger bores.
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Absolutely, you can make a pretty strong argument that there is nothing that you can't do (within it's range) with a 12Ga. slug that you can with a .45-70 with 50% more powder consumption, or a .30-06 with 80% more powder used (Note: numbers were off the top of my head).

:)
 
One of the .338LM's original loadings was with a 250grn. bullet @ 2100fps or so.(just short of the original goal of the 8.58x71 parent cartridge.)
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I was under the impression that the 338 Lapua pushed a 250 gr up to about 2900 fps out of a 26" barrel. Can a 300 Win. Mag. get a 250 gr bullet up to 2900 fps?
 
I was under the impression that the 338 Lapua pushed a 250 gr up to about 2900 fps out of a 26" barrel. Can a 300 Win. Mag. get a 250 gr bullet up to 2900 fps?
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I don't know of any 250gr. .308s (though one likely exists in a RN or the like) but a 240gr can go about 2650fps (max.), OTOH you can push a 208gr. to about 2900fps.

*All loads listed above are over maximum with longer than standard OAL, use caution in attempts to replicate.

:)
 
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