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Coupla questions form my CO brethern ....
SB25-03 preempted any municiplaities/cities/counties from ennactig any illegalities regards fierarms that were more strict than state law - whether travelling through, or making as many stops in that jurisdiction as the folk saw fit.
.PDF for the law
Seems perfectly clear - with the exception of clearly posted signs - for certain areas (& who knows to what extent these municipal entities have gone to preclude legal carry .... ?) Part of my question. I'm aware that several cities/municipalities have attempted challenges under their "home rule" clauses - AFAIK, they've yet to become legally adressed.
Packing.org however, has a "disclaimer" on the CO page that:
"Open Carry - You can open carry legally unless posted otherwise. Hoever (sic), persons have been and continue to be prosecuted for "disorderly conduct" if the "victim" was "alarmed" at seeing the firearm." Seemingly very contradictory regards the latest legislation.
I've noticed this municipal clause very early in my CO career that "scaring sheep" is akin to inciting a riot, if & when a hoplophobe sees your openly carried firearm & freaks - regardless of your any itent to "cause alarm," the mere act of "scaring sheep" is enough to illict a LEO response with you being called upon the carpet to explain "why you need a gun."
(mvpel's recent experience comes to mind immediately.)
(As an aside to my "radical nature," I find it highly amusing that a "man with a gun" is called upon to respond to a call about a "man with a gun" to "restore order" when none was necessary.
Having had my CCW removed due a 6/28/03 incident, I have yet to personally "explore the legalities" of open carry (too much ) - being a "level-headed good guy" with no wish to further explore the ramifications, nor scare the sheep unnecessarily, cause undue alarm at frequent shopping venues, nor unduly compromise my reinstatement (or its possible legal challenges to my initial difficulties). Perhaps a "radical hot-head," but no fool.
By all accounts, & through many machinations through my county Under & Sheriff, I should receive back my "right to CCW" by mid-week, so a fairly moot point - to some extent, but the nominal question remains.
Are there reports of folks still being hassled for open/legal carry here in Colorado, or is it mere posturing by those who still wish to impose their will upon us?
Having not yakked it up to any extent with RMGO on the subject at much length & really haven't a real read on the subject.
Just curious as to any anecdotal gee-whiz-stuff to date.
Further, CO's Colorado Constitution
"Article II Sec 13
Right to Bear Arms
The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of
his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power
when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question;
but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify
the practice of carrying concealed weapons."
Too, SB24-03 enacted "shall issue concealed carry," which kinda makes this ending phrasae all but obsolete.
Sorry for the long-winded approach, but figured I'd cover the bases & ask pertinent questions.
Thanks for any responses, etc.
SB25-03 preempted any municiplaities/cities/counties from ennactig any illegalities regards fierarms that were more strict than state law - whether travelling through, or making as many stops in that jurisdiction as the folk saw fit.
.PDF for the law
Seems perfectly clear - with the exception of clearly posted signs - for certain areas (& who knows to what extent these municipal entities have gone to preclude legal carry .... ?) Part of my question. I'm aware that several cities/municipalities have attempted challenges under their "home rule" clauses - AFAIK, they've yet to become legally adressed.
Packing.org however, has a "disclaimer" on the CO page that:
"Open Carry - You can open carry legally unless posted otherwise. Hoever (sic), persons have been and continue to be prosecuted for "disorderly conduct" if the "victim" was "alarmed" at seeing the firearm." Seemingly very contradictory regards the latest legislation.
I've noticed this municipal clause very early in my CO career that "scaring sheep" is akin to inciting a riot, if & when a hoplophobe sees your openly carried firearm & freaks - regardless of your any itent to "cause alarm," the mere act of "scaring sheep" is enough to illict a LEO response with you being called upon the carpet to explain "why you need a gun."
(mvpel's recent experience comes to mind immediately.)
(As an aside to my "radical nature," I find it highly amusing that a "man with a gun" is called upon to respond to a call about a "man with a gun" to "restore order" when none was necessary.
Having had my CCW removed due a 6/28/03 incident, I have yet to personally "explore the legalities" of open carry (too much ) - being a "level-headed good guy" with no wish to further explore the ramifications, nor scare the sheep unnecessarily, cause undue alarm at frequent shopping venues, nor unduly compromise my reinstatement (or its possible legal challenges to my initial difficulties). Perhaps a "radical hot-head," but no fool.
By all accounts, & through many machinations through my county Under & Sheriff, I should receive back my "right to CCW" by mid-week, so a fairly moot point - to some extent, but the nominal question remains.
Are there reports of folks still being hassled for open/legal carry here in Colorado, or is it mere posturing by those who still wish to impose their will upon us?
Having not yakked it up to any extent with RMGO on the subject at much length & really haven't a real read on the subject.
Just curious as to any anecdotal gee-whiz-stuff to date.
Further, CO's Colorado Constitution
"Article II Sec 13
Right to Bear Arms
The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of
his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power
when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question;
but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify
the practice of carrying concealed weapons."
Too, SB24-03 enacted "shall issue concealed carry," which kinda makes this ending phrasae all but obsolete.
Sorry for the long-winded approach, but figured I'd cover the bases & ask pertinent questions.
Thanks for any responses, etc.