JR24
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In this case I would go with a revolver (I am thinking of doing the same with my LCR), that way if you have to fire from the coat pocket, less chance of jamming it up.
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In this case I would go with a revolver (I am thinking of doing the same with my LCR), that way if you have to fire from the coat pocket, less chance of jamming it up.
Winkman822
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I hadn't thought of the possibility of the coat pocket choking the small auto.
JR24
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Its possible, the again it is also possible the material might bind up a revolver, but less likely IMO.
cheygriz
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Unless you're in LE or security, why would you feel the need for a BUG???
Winkman822
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A gun is a mechanical device, it can fail to operate, even with proper care. There are enough variables, especially ammo related, that can make a BUG a viable option. I also work in a high crime area and large groups of unsavory folks do frequently congregate in the parking lot of my office, especially later in the day when I tend to be in the office alone.
With my revised look into a BUG, it's because it'd be faster to get small gun that's carried in a winter coat pocket into use than it would be to unzip/unbutton the winter coat to get to the belt carried gun.
While I have never and hope I never will be in the spot you were in. A mini revolver is much much better than nothing at all. Most people don’t think about a bug. A mini has gotten people out of jams before. They do take practice and have a lot of limitations. Good for the OP for thinking about a bug.
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[QUOTE="Winkman822, post: 10956414, member: I also work in a high crime area and large groups of unsavory folks do frequently congregate in the parking lot of my office, especially later in the day when I tend to be in the office alone.
With my revised look into a BUG, it's because it'd be faster to get small gun that's carried in a winter coat pocket into use than it would be to unzip/unbutton the winter coat to get to the belt carried gun.[/QUOTE]
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If wearing a winter coat, I would have a Glock 19 or SIG P229 in the pocket with my hand on the grip.
With my revised look into a BUG, it's because it'd be faster to get small gun that's carried in a winter coat pocket into use than it would be to unzip/unbutton the winter coat to get to the belt carried gun.[/QUOTE]
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If wearing a winter coat, I would have a Glock 19 or SIG P229 in the pocket with my hand on the grip.
Jeb Stuart
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The Pico is so easy and slim to carry. Why not? Faster than loading a mag or revolver. Winter will bring out the Nano and the LCR, and even the New Smith 642.
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cheygriz
When I use to take the dog for a walk in a somewhat dodgy neighborhood I lived in many years ago, I had my left hand on the dog's leash and my right hand on a S&W Model 38 in my coat pocket. There were questionable elements of the two and four legged variety back then at the park which we frequented and I wanted to be prepared for either one, or both!
When I use to take the dog for a walk in a somewhat dodgy neighborhood I lived in many years ago, I had my left hand on the dog's leash and my right hand on a S&W Model 38 in my coat pocket. There were questionable elements of the two and four legged variety back then at the park which we frequented and I wanted to be prepared for either one, or both!
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If wearing a winter coat, I would have a Glock 19 or SIG P229 in the pocket with my hand on the grip.
[/QUOTE]I'm simply not that big a guy where I can pocket something like that in a coat pocket. One has to remember that my line of work requires that I wear a suit to work, so it's a P99 or PPS on the belt line and a spare mag in a Clinger pocket pouch on the left side. A small lightweight auto or revolver in my coat pocket in the cooler months would be immensely helpful given my typical daily mode of dress and the geographic location of my firm's office in the heart of Crackheads R' Us.
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I think an LCR in 327 Fed Mag would be my choice for ankle carry backup, assuming I could find a carry rig I liked. I find small revolvers easier to shoot than LCP sized autoloaders. I'd want something very small for that role.
cheygriz
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If you wear a suit, consider a shoulder rig. I can easily conceal my Glock 17 or SIG P226 under a suit or sport coat, and access is easy and fast. I use A Galco Executive for the SIG and a Galco Miami Special for the Glock
Comfortable and fast.
Comfortable and fast.
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That must be some coat!If wearing a winter coat, I would have a Glock 19 or SIG P229 in the pocket with my hand on the grip.
Just dont let anyone close either, or youll never get that hand out of your pocket.
If you wear a suit, consider a shoulder rig. I can easily conceal my Glock 17 or SIG P226 under a suit or sport coat, and access is easy and fast. I use A Galco Executive for the SIG and a Galco Miami Special for the Glock
Comfortable and fast.
I have a Galco Executive for my Glock 26, and had a couple of others for things like my P230's and S&W 642's. I didnt think they made them for anything bigger than subcompact type handguns.
I carried a P230 in one daily for a number of winters, and to some extent, the 26. They do work well, if you wear the right cover garment. You dont want one thats open or unsecured at the front though, as, like a number of holsters of this type, the gun tends to want to "swing out" when you lean forward.
The Executive is the only shoulder holster I would bother using, and anymore, I really dont bother with the one I have. I just find they are very limited, and limiting, in use. But, on occasion, they can be useful.
I believe Galco no longer makes the Executive, which really is unfortunate, as they are a nice holster.
The biggest downside to shoulder holsters is, you have to leave that coat on, and they are one of the easiest set ups to spot, and for a number of reasons.
JR24
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My big issue, I get so danged hot all the time, theres no way I can keep a winter coat on in a heated house after being out all day.
I just carry my gun in its usual 2 oclock and stick to a coat that doesnt fo past mid thigh. Often even in winter have a hand hooked in a jeans pocket, so I get get to my gun reasonably fast under the coat. I work on it during the winter months' range time.
It worked well enough in AK and in the upper midwest, the trick is always finding warm gloves thin enough to not be worthless with a gun.
When it was REALLY cold in AK I did occasionally throw my LCR in the hand warmer parka pocket, as getting to my belt gun would have been problematic.
I tried a shoulder rig, but when it was cold enough it was just as much trouble getting through my zipper/velcro as it was to get to my belt, and if the jacket is unzipped then the belt gun was just as easy to reach.
Just my experience.
cheygriz
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I can conceal a full sized service auto under a light vest with my Galcos.
the trick is to wear the weapon high, near the armpit rather than down near the belt.
And yes, they make them for all full size service pistols, including Glock20.21 and 1911s.
www.galcogunleather.com/miami-classic-shoulder-system_8_2_1211.html
the trick is to wear the weapon high, near the armpit rather than down near the belt.
And yes, they make them for all full size service pistols, including Glock20.21 and 1911s.
www.galcogunleather.com/miami-classic-shoulder-system_8_2_1211.html
Winkman822
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Shoulder carry is out. I have to go in and out of the courthouse enough that putting on/taking off a shoulder holster is not a remotely feasible option. A clip in IWB holster is much easier for me to get on/off discreetly in my car than a shoulder holster before/after going into the courthouse to handle hearings, etc. as compared to a shoulder holster. Problem two, my dimunitive frame doesn't lend itself well to a shoulder holster setup.
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I follow the simple rule of 2 is 1, 1 is none concept the Marines taught us. Often referred to as a NY reload, having a second gun just makes sense. I carry a FNP-9 in a shoulder holster because I am old and fat with a Ruger LC9 tucked in for lefty at 9 o'clock. I must admit to carrying a 4" cold steel.
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Ankle carry requires you to bow down or get on a knee assuming you are facing your opponent. I can understand why a cop would want one but most I know carry on a pouch under their vest.
Its basically worthless unless you are on the ground fighting and then you still have to contort yourself to get to it
Its basically worthless unless you are on the ground fighting and then you still have to contort yourself to get to it
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Took a look at some small revolvers over the weekend. For something to throw in a coat pocket, I liked the S&W 340 PD and Ruger LCR, as they are light weight and would fit the bill of a coat carried winter time gun well, but I definitely did prefer the S&W 686 and Ruger SP101 2.25" as they felt like they'd be easier to shoot with the little bit of extra weight. The extra weight comes with the issue of being a little less easy to carry, however.
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