Inexpensive chronograph

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Savage You did well. I just bought one from Cablela's and paid their regular price. Have not used it yet...almost said I have not shot it yet.
 
ill be following this one. I find myself messing with ballistic apps, drying to duplicate book velocity so the bullet doesn't come ripping apart or performs the way it should and it always gets me wondering about getting one.
 
I bought the Caldwell "kit" for about 6 months ago for $110 it included the infrared sky screens with power supply and battery pack tri-pod, the cell phone cable and soft case (40$ value). It is a great chrono and the app is simple to use. Only downside is you just need a cell phone with a headphone jack. (The link below is $119)

https://www.sportsmansguide.com/pro...tm_medium=PLA&utm_source=Bing&utm_campaign=CI
Be aware that compatibility with Android devices is very poor. I ended up buying an old iPhone off of ebay just to get the app to work. The app could be a lot better, both from a design and compatibility standpoint, but in most cases can be made to work.
 
Main reason I use one is to match ballistics to the reticles in my scopes, and to look for spikes in velocity when working up loads. Once I have the velocity I'm after for a bullet of a certain BC (to match the reticles in my scopes), I rarely use it. Sure is nice to have it when I get a caliber I'm not familiar with.
 
ill be following this one. I find myself messing with ballistic apps, drying to duplicate book velocity so the bullet doesn't come ripping apart or performs the way it should and it always gets me wondering about getting one.

Id highly recommended one, especially if you like tinkering with loads.

Like NTS said, mostly why i bought one was for drop data (and to tune my bows), but eventually it turned into a much more versatile piece of equipment for me.

Each new lot of powder, or bullets, i open i run 5-10 over the chrono to see if theres a noticeable change. Usually there isnt but i HAVE seen a few.
I use it to tailor specific loads to a specific hunt. Like using my 7mm stw on 800-1000lb cows at sub 100yd ranges. I loaded 175sgks to 2800fps for that hunt, where as my normal loads were over 3k. It actually took a surprisingly large reduction in powder (and a switch to a faster powder) to get that done with decent consistency. While i could have done it with guess work id have never really known where i was in the velocity spectrum.
I also correlate with quickloads, and other pressure tested reference data to get a rough idea as to what pressure my loads are running. While not precise by any means its another piece of info that helps me with load evaluation.
Then theres all the other intricacies that having a known velocity can help with. Like accuracy nodes, ive seen 2 guns that showed a preference for a specific velocity range. My 7mag being the most annoying, as it would go from about 2"+ at 100, with any bullet over 140, to right around an inch once you broke 3k. Same result with 3 different powders.
My 06 shows a similar pattern but not nearly as significant.
 
Be aware that compatibility with Android devices is very poor. I ended up buying an old iPhone off of ebay just to get the app to work. The app could be a lot better, both from a design and compatibility standpoint, but in most cases can be made to work.

I have hooked my Caldwell to 2 different Android devices, currently on a Motorola Moto G4. I haven't experienced any real problems. The app is somewhat clunky, but it works just fine.

As for the chrono itself, I would highly recommend it , as an inexpensive tool.
 
I have hooked my Caldwell to 2 different Android devices, currently on a Motorola Moto G4. I haven't experienced any real problems. The app is somewhat clunky, but it works just fine..
It can work. Don't count on it working with any given android device until you see it. I've even tried a usb cable (available from Caldwell for the asking) that is supposed to work more reliably than the audio cable, to no avail.
 
Id highly recommended one, especially if you like tinkering with loads.

Like NTS said, mostly why i bought one was for drop data (and to tune my bows), but eventually it turned into a much more versatile piece of equipment for me.

Each new lot of powder, or bullets, i open i run 5-10 over the chrono to see if theres a noticeable change. Usually there isnt but i HAVE seen a few.
I use it to tailor specific loads to a specific hunt. Like using my 7mm stw on 800-1000lb cows at sub 100yd ranges. I loaded 175sgks to 2800fps for that hunt, where as my normal loads were over 3k. It actually took a surprisingly large reduction in powder (and a switch to a faster powder) to get that done with decent consistency. While i could have done it with guess work id have never really known where i was in the velocity spectrum.
I also correlate with quickloads, and other pressure tested reference data to get a rough idea as to what pressure my loads are running. While not precise by any means its another piece of info that helps me with load evaluation.
Then theres all the other intricacies that having a known velocity can help with. Like accuracy nodes, ive seen 2 guns that showed a preference for a specific velocity range. My 7mag being the most annoying, as it would go from about 2"+ at 100, with any bullet over 140, to right around an inch once you broke 3k. Same result with 3 different powders.
My 06 shows a similar pattern but not nearly as significant.
I do tinker and for certain weapons i try and push the bullet as hard as i can for a more flat shooting round and also BDC recitals. Pistols, target rifles, etc get what shoots the best even if its a low charge. Saves me money on powder. :)

223rem in the heavy barrel gets how hot i can get it within data limits just cause i need a flat shooter at 300-400yards. I will eventually get one. I plan on paying off some debt today, buying some Christmas gifts and if my amazon rewards cash is high enough i might save some $ on the chrono.
 
My neighbor has one of those units and has problems getting his iPhone 5 to work. It seams to be hit and miss. Don't know if it's a cabling problem or what. But he comes to my place for crony work most of the time. I'm using a Competition Electronics Pro unit with the blue tooth adapter.
 
Yes, I at times have problems establishing communication using an iPhone 4s. I've been able to get it working each time I've gone to chrono, but it generally takes long enough that I'm never sure until it finally works. I tried a different cable that had less resistance than the supplied 30ft. one, and it would not even think about communicating over it. Switched back to the supplied cable, ran in circles for a while, stood on my head, cursed, swung a dead cat, looked for paper/pencil and it finally started working again. The chronograph works well but has no memory or statistics integrated - it's all in the app. And there's no guarantee you'll ever get the app to work. Caldwell has not updated its apps in a long time and they never were as reliable as they should be.
 
any issue with just writing down the FPS instead of using the app? Trying to learn here as i have never used one.
 
Sure you can write everything down, but it takes 10 times as long to collect your data. With the electronics of the communication circuitry in the chronograph being tuned for a precise set of conditions that may not exist in your case, you have to be prepared to do that.

I maintain this is where inexpensive becomes too cheap. If the unit could at least store multiple shots you could fire your 5 or 10 rounds and then write down the results. But you've got to write after each shot - so it takes entirely too long. Unless you have a second person to drive the pencil or want to video the display and transcribe the results later it's pretty worthless without the app. And any of these fixes isn't palatable to me compared to spending the additional necessary to get a more robust solution. I'm about to replace mine - it's just too much hassle.
 
I have the caldwell mounted on a $10 amazon camera tripod. Works okay but the lighting has to be right. For best results use it at least 2 hours after sunrise or 2 hours before sunset. Noon is better. No problems with the app on my phone. If I had to do it again I might try the pro chrono.
 
I have the caldwell mounted on a $10 amazon camera tripod. Works okay but the lighting has to be right. For best results use it at least 2 hours after sunrise or 2 hours before sunset. Noon is better. No problems with the app on my phone. If I had to do it again I might try the pro chrono.
Interesting; I have had no lighting issues. I was prepared to be selective in its use but I've had no problems from mid-day right through to sunset.
 
I still write it down and then input it into my log. I'm still old fashioned in some ways. Definitely slower. :)
I was prepared to write everything down and didn't worry if I got the app working when I bought the unit. But then found it only holds one reading. I shoot pistols and have no table where I chrono, so putting down the gun and picking up the pencil and paper after every shot got me concerned about getting the app working. Should have abandoned it at that point - I've bought android and iOS devices, made calls, bought cables, spent hours researching and trying things, etc.
 
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At least my chrono will hold a string. I just have to shoot a string and then walk to the chrono and write it down. I may do that 5 plus times and take the info home. I made little excel sheets to write it down on. That sucks a little if I am on the rifle range an there are others there. No big deal in a pistol pit by myself.
 
I wish I had gone that way to start with. This unit looks good: https://www.amazon.com/Competition-Electronics-ProChrono-Digital-Chronograph/dp/B0028MTBJ4

I like that it stores 9 strings/99 shots and does statistics internally, so it should be usable without any kind of data device. I believe it is expandable with a bluetooth communications module as referred to by Blue68f100 above.

I have that one, which was the first i bought, and a magspeed v3.
I can recommend the prochrony, its worked wonderfully for me with everything from airguns, to bows, to pistols, rifles and shotguns.
Same downsides as any other eyeball chrono is they are sensitive to lighting conditions. Which is why i bought the magspeed. Accuracy when i compare the two in decent lighting conditions is usually less that 50fps and some of that is distance from muzzle.

Ive also used both at the same time, the mag speed on the barrel and the prochrony at 100yds to check BCs. Not brave enough to try farther out lol.
 
I have shot almost 1000 groups across my Caldwell. On rare occasions I will have a lighting issue, due to the position of the sun, but I have found that I can sometimes tilt the chrono left or right (away from the sun) or shade the sun and that fixes the problem.

I used it first with an iPhone 4, and now with an iPhone 5. No problems at all with getting the app to work. I have also used it with an iPad. I did discover two obscure bugs with the iPhone app after I first bought it. I reported it, and in two weeks there was an update to the app that fixed those problems.

For the money, it is hard to beat. However, if money were no object, I would buy the Labradar.
 
I have that one, which was the first i bought, and a magspeed v3.
I can recommend the prochrony, its worked wonderfully for me with everything from airguns, to bows, to pistols, rifles and shotguns.
Same downsides as any other eyeball chrono is they are sensitive to lighting conditions. Which is why i bought the magspeed. Accuracy when i compare the two in decent lighting conditions is usually less that 50fps and some of that is distance from muzzle.

Ive also used both at the same time, the mag speed on the barrel and the prochrony at 100yds to check BCs. Not brave enough to try farther out lol.
in your 100yard to check BC comment. what is BC?

Also, Why and how do you chronograph a shotgun without blowing the chronograph to pieces?
 
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