What do you use ? One thing for sure there is plenty old 870's out thereId rather have an 870 Express than a turkish over-under
What do you use ? One thing for sure there is plenty old 870's out thereId rather have an 870 Express than a turkish over-under
Shooting trap twice a month is a form of competition.How on earth did you try to turn this conversation into competition of any kind. That's not what the fella asked.
Nice to know who to turn to if competition becomes a question.
" inexpensive OU " !!
I did no such thing. I explained what to expect from inexpensive O/Us and SxSs. I also explained why those of us who shoot a lot more do not choose them. For many people, they will fill the role. For the casual shooter, they are OK. For a more regular shooter, not so much. They just plain do not have the longevity that a Browning or Beretta will have. The metallurgy is not at the same level because they are made to meet a price point. Firing pins seem to be a real struggle for the inexpensive O/Us. Often the replacements they send out don't last even as long as the originals, which averages about 500-1000 rounds.How on earth did you try to turn this conversation into competition of any kind. That's not what the fella asked.
Nice to know who to turn to if competition becomes a question.
" inexpensive OU " !!
Have run mostly Remington 870 and 1100 models.What do you use ? One thing for sure there is plenty old 870's out there
Recreation like playing golf twice a month. But it's what you want it to be . ReallyShooting trap twice a month is a form of competition.
Even if I played golf I'd at least run Ping clubs.Recreation like playing golf twice a month. But it's what you want it to be . Really
I'd rather have a well-used, used Citori than what 800 bucks will get you when it comes to new O/U guns.
Sharp eyes, fast reflexes. Wish there was a pill for thatEven if I played golf I'd at least run Ping clubs.
Got some for my kid when she played on HS team and they helped her a lot.
People would stop and watch her on driving range, perfect swing, long high rips, straight, every time.
Sometimes I don't like her LOL
This is the politest & most helpful discussion of budget O/U’s I have seen over several forums. The general advice is to avoid them.
Please note the discussion of longevity. The price of the gun is the cheapest part. To date, over several shotgun forums, no one has posted a round count for any budget shotgun that reasonably represents what shooters do, except one person claimed to have 50,000 rounds through a CZ. Just one. I have issuing this challenge for at least 3 years.
My son shoots a Citori. He replaces firing pins every 10,000 rounds. I am about 12,000 rounds into an 1100 I bought for $500 before Covid
I don't know much about O/U and SXS shotguns anymore. I used to keep up with them and I've tried some of the moderately priced ones with disappointing results. There was a time when I wanted a double, but I finally decided I'd much rather have a quality semi-auto than a cheap double.
Anymore a new 870 is $500 with walnut and matte finished metal. A decent semi-auto with a plastic stock is $800-$1300. I'm not aware of anything with polished metal and real walnut under $2000. Be aware that most budget guns with wood isn't real walnut but a cheap wood stained to look like walnut. I can't imagine any new $800 O/U holding up for very long. There might be something out there that is well used close to that price.
Good info there. Citori shotguns have been around a long time and there's a reason.For those shopping for a used Citori, take a look at the top lever. If it is to the right of the serial number, the gun likely has a lower round count. With use, the locking bolt wears and gradually moves left. When it goes left of center, the gun may pop open upon firing. The fix is to have a gunsmith install a new locking bolt. The part is about 40 bucks. It has to be professionally fitted, so labor will vary. The good news is a locking bolt generally lasts well above 100k rounds, probably closer to 200k rounds with clay loads...FWIW, sometimes a lever close center isn't a sign of lots of bolt wear. Sometimes, you just need to replace the top lever spring. That is a 10 buck part, that most DIYers can install.
A few years back I came across a NIB Savage O/U. I scooped it up for $400. It is stamped on the barrels Made by Valmet.Valmet 412...They're around for $800-$900 and are sturdy guns.
These are quality shotguns that will give you a lot of service, made in Finland with excellent steel.
I have had good luck with my Stoeger Condor Competition (12ga, 3"). Love the adjustable comb for fast acquisition.$800 used or new