Info. Needed From Hornady Manual

[GunAdmirer]

I need to know the OAL for the Hornady 9mm 124-125 grain flat point bullet. I am loading a Berry's flat point and was told to use the Hornady flat point bullet data from the Hornady manual. I don't have a local source for a Hornady manual. Thanks in advance. GA

If it doesn't list an OAL for a flat point, what is the OAL for the hollowpoint bullet of the same weight?

I'm guessing it is around 1.050"?

 

[Jet22]

Dead on- 1.050 for the FMJ flat point and 1.150 for the FMJ round nose. This info was from the fourth edition. The third edition says 1.040 with the same bullet...go figure.

 

[GunAdmirer]

Thanks so much Jet22. That sure seems short! My friend loads them that short and swears by them. Thanks again for the information. GA

 

[GunAdmirer]

Jet22,

Did the Hornady manual have powder load data for Bullseye and the 124 grain flat point bullet? If so, mind posting it?

GA

 

[GunAdmirer]

I shot the flat point bullets in my Glock 17, Beretta 92FS and XD-9 Service this evening. No feeding problems at all. I like the fact that the flat point bullets left perfectly round holes in the target like a semi wadcutter.

Federal once fired brass
Berry's 124 grain flat point plated bullet
4.0 grains of Bullseye
CCI small pistol primer
1.050" OAL.
1050 fps.

Looks like it is going to be a great load for plinking, target shooting and IDPA.

 

[CB900F]

GunAdmirer;

Hornady 6th edition also gives C.O.L. as 1.050" and does not list Bullseye load data.

Speer lists a C.O.L. of 1.120" with the Gold Dot 124 grain and does show 4.4 grains of Bullseye as max load & 3.9 as minimum. They also show Bullseye well down on their list of powders, which are arranged by max velocity achieved from max load.

In order, Speer shows: HS-7, Blue Dot, AA#9, Unique, AA#7, Viht 3N37, Power Pistol, Tite-Group, Hodg Universal, AA#5, 700X, and then Bullseye.

Hope this helps.

900F

 

[GunAdmirer]

Thanks 900F! That information helps. I am using 4.0 grains of Bullseye for a light target/plinking load.

 

[BluesBear]

If you seat the bullet so that the ogive matches that of a FMJ you'll end up with much more reliably functioning ammunition than you will get by just using the measurements from a manual.

And remember, in handgun ammunition, it's how far the bullet extends INSIDE the case that really matters.

 

[GunAdmirer]

How do I seat the bullet so the ogive matches FMJ?

Here's what I don't understand:

The difference in length between the flat point and round nose bullet of the same brand and 124 grain weight is .050"

I load the round nose to 1.150-1.155".

Hornady calls for 1.050" for the flat point.

If going just by the difference in length, the flat point should be loaded to 1.100" (1.150-0.050=1.100)? Wouldn't that give them equal depth in the case?

I don't get it. Like you said, the depth in the case is what matters.

I've heard the flat points have to be seated deeper for reliability.

 

[BluesBear]

Take your seat/crimp die and make sure you have a round nose seating plug installed.

Screw the seating plug so it will NOT seat a bullet.

Find a factory loaded FMJ that cycles 100% in your pistol.

Take one round of it and put in in your shell holder and run the ram to the top of the stroke.

Screw your seat/crimp die down to where it's finger tight against the shoulder of the factory loaded round.

Lower the ram. Screwthe die 1/16 of a turn and set the lock ring.

Raise the ram again and you should just barely feel it try to crimp.

Then tighten your seating stem down to where it's tight against the bullet.
Lock the seating stem.

Now when you load a flat point the ogive will match.