Lots of exaggerations? My neighbor who works for one of the larger agencies in So Cal has taken many firearms from travelers down here. When he commences a vehicle stop, one of his initial questions is "do you have any weapons in your vehicle or on your person?" He almost always takes custody of the firearm while conducting his initial business, and then will focus his attention on the legitimacy on the weapon. Just because CHP has some published website policy dosen't mean all the other multitude of agencies do the same. There is a wide bit of discretion on the part of individual officers, and you never know to what extent they may probe. If you keep a low profile, obey traffic laws, and dont stir anything up, likely you will have no problems.
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lizziedog1
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If any of you really understand California laws I suggest you try out for Jeopardy. Your IQ must have a fourth digit.
In downtown Sacramento there is the state law library. Law books from every state are in there. Most states take up a shelf or two. The California law books take up a whole section of the library.
Ask five LEO's in the Golden State how to legally carry a gun in a car and you are likely to get five very different answers.
In downtown Sacramento there is the state law library. Law books from every state are in there. Most states take up a shelf or two. The California law books take up a whole section of the library.
Ask five LEO's in the Golden State how to legally carry a gun in a car and you are likely to get five very different answers.
Now I'm confused, in what manner is the unknowable firearms box need regulated in such a matter regulated through inane logic?@9mmepiphany
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Of course, it's common sense to store crap out of sight to prevent temptation, but apparently only the unknowable firearms box need regulated in such a matter. That's the inane logic I'm referring to. Unless your box screams "There's a gun in me!" They would have broken in anyway
Maybe I'm just not understanding your point.
Fiddletown suggested that the locked case (like a gun rug or gun case) containing the guns be placed in the trunk to keep it from prying eyes...why would that logic be inane?
Well thank you, but I don't claim that fourth digit in my IQ score. And while I have great respect for Fiddletowns intellect...we've been able to speak at length in person on a number of subjects...I don't beleive he claims that high a score either.
But then neither of us believe that it is required to understand CA laws concerning firearms...it just takes the desire to be educated about firearms rights and the laws that govern them to properly exercise those rights
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Lots of exaggerations? My neighbor who works for one of the larger agencies in So Cal has taken many firearms from travelers down here. When he commences a vehicle stop, one of his initial questions is "do you have any weapons in your vehicle or on your person?" He almost always takes custody of the firearm while conducting his initial business, and then will focus his attention on the legitimacy on the weapon. Just because CHP has some published website policy dosen't mean all the other multitude of agencies do the same. There is a wide bit of discretion on the part of individual officers, and you never know to what extent they may probe. If you keep a low profile, obey traffic laws, and dont stir anything up, likely you will have no problems.
Your friend from SoCal is doing that for officer safety if a person has the weapon under his control. If the weapon is not under the driver or passengers control he has no reason to touch it. In the 18 years on the Sacramento P.D. I made a minimum of 20 traffic stops a day and only had to take possession of weapons about 5 times.
Lots of exaggerations? My neighbor who works for one of the larger agencies in So Cal has taken many firearms from travelers down here. When he commences a vehicle stop, one of his initial questions is "do you have any weapons in your vehicle or on your person?" He almost always takes custody of the firearm while conducting his initial business, and then will focus his attention on the legitimacy on the weapon. Just because CHP has some published website policy dosen't mean all the other multitude of agencies do the same. There is a wide bit of discretion on the part of individual officers, and you never know to what extent they may probe. If you keep a low profile, obey traffic laws, and dont stir anything up, likely you will have no problems.
Your friend from SoCal is doing that for officer safety if a person has the weapon under his control. If the weapon is not under the driver or passengers control he has no reason to touch it. In the 18 years on the Sacramento P.D. I made a minimum of 20 traffic stops a day and only had to take possession of weapons about 5 times.
Hnn, doesn't that tread into consent to search your vehicle territory? I wont claim legal expertise, but short of probable cause and reasonable suspicion, how can he ask you to hand over the firearm and detain it until he's satisfied you're not doing anything illegal with it?
I ask that knowing the police can pretty much conjure up an excuse. Hell, that's the state that makes it legal to search you cellphone info it its on your person during a traffic stop and not "safely' in your car.
@9mmepiphany
It's really not worth going into any further, but...
-You have a box.
-A locked box.
-containing a gun.
-Cal law requires to put said box in trunk to prevent curious people from becoming too curious. These are known as thieves.
My disconnect...
-Thief doesn't know whats in your box.
-He's breaking into your car anyway because he's overwhelmed by curiosity.
-Shouldn't there be a law to avoid all such temptations? /sarcasm
Yes, it's common sense to not make your car such an attractive target, but I guess I feel Cal is trying to regulate stupidity, which you can't. Arguments can be made that thieves are in and out opportunists, but he's got access to your entire vehicle whether you left a lunch box or a gun box. A trunk is no real barrier as to the integrity of your firearm. "It's fine to get your crap stolen, as long as your crap wasn't a gun in a lock box. In which case it should have been in the trunk. because thieves can't look back there, looking to gut your subwoofer or something."
Perhaps I'm not explaining my POV well enough. That's okay. AZ is currently at war with California. Or at least glaring at eash other. Disney land isn't on the list with or without a gun sitting in a locked box on my passengers seat
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Everytime I read one of these things about California....I just shake my head.
What is described above is not at all consistent with the 2nd Amendment. No Way No How! To the LawAbiding Citizen, they have made a firearm in California a legal Liability nothing more. The Criminals still dont care.
No place is perfect, but wow.
What is described above is not at all consistent with the 2nd Amendment. No Way No How! To the LawAbiding Citizen, they have made a firearm in California a legal Liability nothing more. The Criminals still dont care.
No place is perfect, but wow.
I believe it has to be in a locked compartment where it is not accessible to passengers in the vehicle. Some people consider a trunk a locked container. You could err on the side of caution, but either way the ammo needs to be separate from the gun.
Some people will go as far as to say that a loaded magazine is a loaded weapon, so keep that in mind.
California does not honor out of state carry permits.
Some people will go as far as to say that a loaded magazine is a loaded weapon, so keep that in mind.
California does not honor out of state carry permits.
NavyLCDR
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It's up to you. You can transport the firearm according to California written Penal Code which ONLY requires the gun to be unloaded and locked in a container within the passenger compartment or locked in an exterior compartment such as trunk (with or without a gun case) and permits loaded magazines to be right there with the gun, just not in the gun itself.
OR, you can cater to the fear and paranoia expressed and put the gun behind three locks, the ammo behind three separate locks with the magazines in a U-Haul trailer that you rented to keep them in and give the whole kaboodle to the California cops immediately upon seeing them because they are going to sniff out the guns and take them from you anyway.
Personally, I'll stick with the written law - which a state level LEO agency agrees with on their published website. California also has state preemption which makes it illegal for local agencies to have rules/regulations more stringent that state law regarding the possession of unloaded firearms.
OR, you can cater to the fear and paranoia expressed and put the gun behind three locks, the ammo behind three separate locks with the magazines in a U-Haul trailer that you rented to keep them in and give the whole kaboodle to the California cops immediately upon seeing them because they are going to sniff out the guns and take them from you anyway.
Personally, I'll stick with the written law - which a state level LEO agency agrees with on their published website. California also has state preemption which makes it illegal for local agencies to have rules/regulations more stringent that state law regarding the possession of unloaded firearms.
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