Inheriting... Errrr... Being given a few guns, part 2

[cjbs2003]

Not really sure why my original post was locked, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=590102 but I am new here, so maybe I missed something?

Anyways, it seems like the last post of that thread,

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unli...ensed-transfer

Q: To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?

A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]


http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unli...censed-acquire

Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?

A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]



http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unli...-state-firearm

Q: May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-State source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s own State?

A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-State source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s State of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3)]

Is on to something. Rather than become the official owner of the guns, I'll just request that I temporarily borrow said guns for sporting purposes and safe keeping while my grandfather is in his assisted care facility. Once he passes away I can officially become the owner of them. Anyone know how long is temporary by law?

If this is unreasonable, I guess I'll have to waste a bunch of money on shipping and FFL fees which will punish me because I am a law abiding citizen. Meanwhile, criminals will be criminals and would just do what they want regardless of the law. So in the end these laws seem to not prevent criminals from getting guns but simply punish law abiding citizens with unjust fees and taxes... :banghead:

 

[TexasRifleman]

Meanwhile, criminals will be criminals and would just do what they want regardless of the law. So in the end these laws seem to not prevent criminals from getting guns but simply punish law abiding citizens with unjust fees and taxes...

Sadly you are correct here.

The reason the other post was locked, and this one as well, is that at the end of the day you are asking how to work around the law. Maybe the work around you describe is perfectly legal, maybe it has some problems, dunno.

If you decide to do that it's your decision but it's not a topic for discussion here.

The law is clear. It's a stupid law, useless, doesn't prevent any crime, etc, but it's clear that what you describe here requires an FFL transfer if you're going to follow the law 100%.

ALL gun laws are stupid and useless, but they exist and we have to live with them.