newfalguy101
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I didn't do jack, except post a question asking a question pertaining to a conversation I had with my friend.
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I understand- I don't think we meant to offend but your post sounded like a whole lot of safety risks were going on.
11 grains, even +75% more of that, is a dangerous undercharge. It also wasn't clear to me at least if you were pulling some cartridges to load others with a potentially unknown or unsafe load. Having a powder related mishap is about as serious a mistake you can make reloading so we pounced on the perceived unsafe loads and/or practices which produced those loads. If you're confident in you and/or your friend's practices then just take our comments as what they are, the friendly concerns of strangers who just want you to be safe.
I wish you the best
11 grains, even +75% more of that, is a dangerous undercharge. It also wasn't clear to me at least if you were pulling some cartridges to load others with a potentially unknown or unsafe load. Having a powder related mishap is about as serious a mistake you can make reloading so we pounced on the perceived unsafe loads and/or practices which produced those loads. If you're confident in you and/or your friend's practices then just take our comments as what they are, the friendly concerns of strangers who just want you to be safe.
I wish you the best
newfalguy101
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Hornady online
https://www.hornady.com/support/load-data/
I have not personally loaded anything in over a year, life kept getting in the way, and since the move I cant even find my Hornady load manual
CraigC
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I'll be more blunt. You're getting the response you're getting because what your "buddy" is doing is dangerous and stupid. I'd love to know what data he's using because his powder charge is HALF what it should be. That is the reason for the problem he's having. 296/H110 MUST be used with a magnum primer and is NOT suitable for reduced loads.
296/H110 is a great powder for the .300Blackout.
296/H110 is a great powder for the .300Blackout.
The bottom line is that not all powders are the same. Many are safe to download... H110/296 is famous for NOT being suitable for that (nor for use with non-magnum primers). Load manuals typically include particular notes or warnings to this effect, so someone making this error is probably either not actually reading (just glancing at numbers is not really reading) or is drawing from only one source that happens not to have included this widely-disseminated information.
The "heat" of the answers is simply because it's a dangerous situation and reflects some systemic errors (such as not reading) on the part of the loader (not the person reporting it). Reloading is not rocket science, but it does require more attention and understanding than the loader here is applying. We ain't baking Duncan Hines brownies here.
The "heat" of the answers is simply because it's a dangerous situation and reflects some systemic errors (such as not reading) on the part of the loader (not the person reporting it). Reloading is not rocket science, but it does require more attention and understanding than the loader here is applying. We ain't baking Duncan Hines brownies here.
Things related to your issue that I would check:
Powder: dump out a fair quantity into a wide container like a bowl that you only use for reloading, check for clumps, powder that looks different, like color and texture. Is it consistent through out?
Primers: if you have some different types or brands try loading a couple of each in empty cases and fire them and note the sound and possibly the spark or flame produced and compare to the primers that he was using in the loads in question. Look for some that are discolored or not the same color.
Case: double check the flash hole for obstructions like cleaning media or dirt. Also check for moisture.
Just my 2¢.
Powder: dump out a fair quantity into a wide container like a bowl that you only use for reloading, check for clumps, powder that looks different, like color and texture. Is it consistent through out?
Primers: if you have some different types or brands try loading a couple of each in empty cases and fire them and note the sound and possibly the spark or flame produced and compare to the primers that he was using in the loads in question. Look for some that are discolored or not the same color.
Case: double check the flash hole for obstructions like cleaning media or dirt. Also check for moisture.
Just my 2¢.
gwpercle
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Sounds like there could be some loose primer pockets .
During a hot load the pockets will expand... after that the primers can't contain the pressure , the primer pops (fires) but the pressure from the powder doesn't develop , it leaks out from around the loose primer and you get that incomplete powder burn... that's the golden gray mass. Powder needs pressure to burn...no pressure no burn. The bullet is staying in place ...the pressure is going somewhere..check the primer pockets. If they are a loose fit...trash them and start with new... No way to fix them.
Gary
During a hot load the pockets will expand... after that the primers can't contain the pressure , the primer pops (fires) but the pressure from the powder doesn't develop , it leaks out from around the loose primer and you get that incomplete powder burn... that's the golden gray mass. Powder needs pressure to burn...no pressure no burn. The bullet is staying in place ...the pressure is going somewhere..check the primer pockets. If they are a loose fit...trash them and start with new... No way to fix them.
Gary
CraigC
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There's always a possibility that there are other issues but as long as the charge is 11gr, it doesn't matter.
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