Interesting New Gun Technology on youtube.com

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A. Will be prohibitively expensive.
B. Will never be legal for Civi possession in the USA (NFA 1934/FOPA 1986).
C. Batteries are not a desired firearm accessory. See Remington "etronix."

It's an innovative design, but I don't see it going anywhere.
 
Interesting technology. I obviously support its development for military applications. However, for civillian use (even when considering the Second Amendment and the need for militia-type weapons) it seems to me that it would go through ammo way too quickly. The pistol would be empty in a second. How would one carry all that ammo? How do you reload the thing? Do you replace all the barrels?

Anyhow, as a Second Amendment supporter I do not think it should be outlawed and believe these questions should be determined by the individual.
 
I think that is an exciting development. If they work out the kinks, like battery inefficiency, and reloading, the gains in saved weight and cost from gun powder and casings, could be incredible.

There are lots of issues to be worked out, but the potential is definitely there. I wonder how much energy that thing uses.
 
Why is it that whenever someone posts about a "new gun technology", I know it is going to be a 4+ year old video on Metal Storm? There have to have been 50 threads on this already.
 
They say it's more reliable because they've removed mechanics and replaced it with electronics?
Ha, I cannot even count the number of electronic appliances I've had to throw in the trash.
 
Interesting. Would that even technically be considered a firearm, at least as far as a firearm is typically legally defined? Its more like a high powered airsoft gun, function wise.
 
Let's see. Electronic ignition. Didn't W. W. Greener write about it in the early 20th Century in his book, The Gun and its Development? Multiple rounds stacked atop of one another. Makes me think of Joseph Belton who proposed that very thing to the Continental Congress during the American Revolution. What I missed out on on this video is this thing a breechloader for reloading or the world's most modern muzzleloader? :D
 
First of all I've seen this before and would not exactly call this "new" technology. The fact that this has been in experimental stages for so long tells me that not too many people are impressed.

While looking at the video the people talk about all the uses of this weapon I think that most of the attributes also apply to many conventional firearms.

Rapid fire: I noticed that to get the high rate of fire claims they stack a bunch of these weapons together. I suspect a bunch of M2s stacked up and fired in sequence could get an equivalent rate of fire.

Three shots, one recoil: I remember reading about a future military rifle that did this. It had three barrels on it and fired a sequence of three sabots with each trigger pull. I think it used mini-rockets or some other kind of caseless ammunition, it wasn't MetalStorm. Oh, and I read about this somewhere around 20 years ago.

No jams/misfires: A Gatling style weapon that is electric or hydraulic powered is not likely to jam or misfire. A round that fails to fire will simply be ejected with the spent casings. Now, a round that is stuck in the barrel may not exactly be pushed out by the following round like in MetalStorm but the chances of a round firing and not making out of the barrel is quite small.

One major concern I have with MetalStorm is the accuracy. I see that when multiple barrels are mated together they have a very small group down range. I also see that a bullet from the same barrel is going to hit the same point as the bullet preceding and following, which is to be expected of any modern firearm. What I'm concerned about is the accuracy when used on small arms.

In the case of a handgun the accuracy may not be of considerable concern. It just has to hit MOBG at the length of about 7 meters. In the case of a CIWS/Phalanx/Goalkeeper type of automated system the bullets are tracked by radar and the computer can compensate for an inaccurately mounted barrel.

What about a M16 type weapon where a warrior is expected to make a kill at 300 meters? Let's assume the barrel is loaded with 10 rounds and a set of four barrels is mounted in one "magazine" that is intended to be switched out. So a warrior goes out to the range and sights in the weapon, and in doing so fires off ten rounds. This poor defender of all that is good has now expended one of four of the bullets in the magazine, only to have to sight in the next barrels when the other 30 rounds have been expended.

Now you also have a warrior carrying around not one barrel but one barrel for each 10 rounds of ammunition. That is going to be very heavy unless the barrels are made of some exotic materials. If the barrels are made of something like carbon fiber to make it light then it's going to be very expensive.

I don't see how this is going to be practical in any but a very few applications.
 
One good EMP blast and it's Useless
Also, Reloading it would be slow, way to slow.
 
I LOVE it when people say electronic and reliability in the same sentence without it being verbatim "Electronics have no reliability factor worth relying on".

It's funny because of how wrong it is.
 
One serious questions comes to mind: If you have several bullets in a barrel and the first bullet fails to ignite or "squibs" so that it doesn't clear the barrel then what happens when the next nine bullets after it are lit off in ultra-rapid succession? The electronic device won't know the first round was a squib or FTF. That sounds like a recipe for a monumental kaboom!
I've never had a squib but I've experinced a few hangfires. For a weapon that fires that quickly it would amount to the same thing, though.
 
One serious questions comes to mind: If you have several bullets in a barrel and the first bullet fails to ignite or "squibs" so that it doesn't clear the barrel then what happens when the next nine bullets after it are lit off in ultra-rapid succession? The electronic device won't know the first round was a squib or FTF. That sounds like a recipe for a monumental kaboom!
I've never had a squib but I've experinced a few hangfires. For a weapon that fires that quickly it would amount to the same thing, though.

I believe the video stated an unfired round would be pushed clear by the one following. I imagine that would throw the ballistics in the toilet but it does mean that a FTF would not put the barrel out of commission.
 
I want to know how its electronically ignited, I would think that there are metal contacts along the barrel that mate up with the 'cartridge' in which it completes the circuit for ignition. What about powder residue after multiple shots and multiple reloads? I bet the failure to fire would be higher the more you use it.

Like the other guy said as well, what about 9 shots that FTF and the last one in the bore goes off, kablooey.
Finally the fact that its electronic, is it possible for a particular signal to set it off or anything like that?
 
Why is it that whenever someone posts about a "new gun technology", I know it is going to be a 4+ year old video on Metal Storm? There have to have been 50 threads on this already.

I was thinking the same thing. I knew it would be Metal Storm without even clicking the link.

Is there really anyone who is even mildly interested in guns who hasn't heard of this already?
 
One good EMP blast and it's Useless
Also, Reloading it would be slow, way to slow.

As far as EMP ad the military are concerned it's one of two things. Either (A) it WILL be EMP hardened or (B) if it cannot be EMP hardened it will not be used. As far as EMP and civilian arms are concerned I don't think EMP is of a major concern if it is a concern at all.

One possible reason that MetalStorm continues to be shown on Future Weapons and not The History Channel is because there are concerns over EMP. A hydraulically driven gatling gun can achieve very high rates of fire, do so with very high reliability, has very short reload time, and has been proven to be EMP resistant.

The barrels are not intended to be reloaded in the field. Once the barrel has expended all rounds it is supposed to be swapped out with a fresh, loaded, barrel. Reloading, as far as the end user is concerned, should take no more time than swapping a magazine. The discarded barrel would probably be then boxed up and sent off to the factory for repacking of ammunition. If the user only has the one barrel or set of barrels then, yes, reloading would be lengthy... probably two to four weeks unless overnight shipping is requested then it should take five to seven business days.
 
Indeed...

I had questions about Metal Storm myself. I Googled the system, and answered most of my questions in under five minutes. Those five minutes were a part of the year 2001.

It's probably somewhere between the Remington Etronix (which some people think was pretty cool) and the CVA Electra on the interesting scale.
 
I believe the video stated an unfired round would be pushed clear by the one following. I imagine that would throw the ballistics in the toilet but it does mean that a FTF would not put the barrel out of commission.

Yeah, okay, somebody else can go ahead and try that one first... I'll watch from way back here.
 
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