I recently started carrying a 2” 38 Special non +P. When carrying a 357 in the past, I have always carried 38 Spl +P and been comfortable. To give me a level of comfort I tested using the ol water jug test. In the past I have used this to test 40 S&W 155 gr. Hydra Shocks. So I lined up 6 one gallon jugs to conduct the test. I used the 6th one as insurance because when I did the 40 S&W test the bullet went through 4 and creased the back of the 5th but didn’t exit the 5th bottle. Today I was using a 2” barrel, 38 Spl. Mag Tech 158 gr SJHP non +P. The bullet went through all 6 jugs and as far as I know is still going! The hole in the back of the 6th jug was about the same size as the hole in the back of the second jug (first jug was ripped apart) so with the deep penetration and the size of the hole I’m guessing the velocity was too low and the HP didn’t expand much. I know this isn’t a very scientific test and I bought the Mag Tech for the time being until I could decide what I really want to carry in the gun. I guess I’m surprised at the penetration.