Interesting thing happened at Walmart

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The wife and I are making a quick run to the major metroplitan area closest to us, she decides at the last minute to make a diaper run to the Walmart.

We are walking up to the front door and observe security anda cashier dash out of the store and grab a guy. They get him by the arm and walk him back inside. Guy looks like a sterotypical thug.

THe wife is holding the hand of our 4 year old and I have the 18month old in my arms. As the wife is getting a basket I'm still watching the to see what they do with this guy they caught.

The large security guy is still holding on to the arm of the guy and the cashier has walked off. The security guy is talking on a radio. The suspected BG is eyeing the door and the security guy is not paying a lot of attention but still has him by the arm.

I told my wife "He's fixing to run." THe guy was all but holding a sign announcing his intentions. As I said this the BG raises his arm real casually and the security guy lets go and the BG bolts for the door like a shot. HE easily outruns the overly large security guy (who was much faster than I gave him credit for) and then a swarm of Walmart people hit the door and I can't see anymore. Don't know if they caught him or not, but the odds were good. For some reason there were a bunch of cops and firetrucks and EMT in the parking lot around a car, when I could last see the bad guy he was heading straigth towards them.

Here is the question...

In this situation, had I not been holding my kid I could have easily moved in and stopped this guy like a free safety. He was broadcasting his intentions and I was easily in position that 3-4 steps would have put me in his path and not left him much dodging room.

Would you stop a shoplifter at Walmart? Or let security do the work?
 
I would leave walmart to deal with it ..thats why they have secuirty last thing i want to do if wrestle witha BG when i have my CCW peice on .
 
All I want to know is, why does every security detail always have some big overweight guy?:D And if you've worked at a place that has an overweight security guy; why does he always seem to act like a hard@$$?

As for me, I wouldn't get in the guys way; he's Wal Marts responsibility.:rolleyes:
 
i'd probably leave it alone. one of my sister's colleagues at walmart was stabbed in the ribs by a guy she confronted about shoplifting. unless the bg came directly at me, i think i'd just watch.


-it is our business to go as we are impelled-
 
Why put yourself at potential risk for Wal-Mart's sake?

They've got people paid to do that stuff.

hillbilly
 
I would step back and get out of the way. I don't have a dog in that fight.
 
All I want to know is, why does every security detail always have some big overweight guy? And if you've worked at a place that has an overweight security guy; why does he always seem to act like a hard@$$?
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"Respect mah authori-tie!" - Eric Cartman
 
Unfortunately I have to agree with everyone else.If this were still "the old days"I would like to think that you'd had to stand in line to stop the BG's escape.
Alas,no more.
 
I'd have MAYBE said to the security guy he's looking to run. But probably wouldn't have done anything.
 
I might have stuck out a foot and tripped him. Then again, I might have been sued up one side and down the other as a result. (Tort reform, anyone?)

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I'd stay out of it. Wal-Mart's bottom line isn't worth the possibility of injury to myself or the possibility of a lawsuit from the suspect. If the suspect was fighting with the security man I probably would have gotten involved. Then there would have been a good chance of injury to innocent persons. That would have made the risk that I might have been injured or sued worthwhile.

Jeff
 
I might have stuck out a foot and tripped him. Then again, I might have been sued up one side and down the other as a result. (Tort reform, anyone?)
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Would have been very easy to do. My actual thought was it would have been very easy to shove him against the wall in the airlock as he ran past me. Security would have been on top of him before he could recover his balance.

Wal-Mart's bottom line isn't worth the possibility of injury to myself or the possibility of a lawsuit from the suspect.
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While I agree wholeheartedly, isn't it a damn shame that is what crosses ones mind instead of doing what is right.

But there is another kind of evil that
we must fear the most, and that is
the indifference of good men.
The Boondock Saints
 
I used to manage an outdoors store. We did not chase shoplifters! A store manager was run over & killed by a driver in the lot (not involved with the crook), a crook was hurt outside the store (tripped over a curb) and sued the store and a manager, and on and on. Unfortunetly, in todays legal system, if anyone gets hurt, you will get sued. And don't expect Wally World to pay for your lawyer, or help you in any way.
 
Unfortunately, I have no desire to risk my financial well-being to stop a punk from stealing a DVD. They've managed to accomplish their goal of criminal empowerment via crippling lawsuits in all the places that recognize the right to defend oneself.
 
I remember a few weeks ago, I went to the grocery store to pick up some ice cream. This town isn't exactly the nicest town so they had a security guy there.

He had a 1911, body armor and a very serious look to him. I wouldn't want to be a thief and have him detain me.:(
 
As long as no one was in danger, I would probably step back and LMAO--especially if the security guard was dumb enough to let this guy go! Doom on him.
 
I would let Wal-Mart handle it themselves...they've got the resources.

However, I will (and have) help out the "mom-and-pop" stores.

A liquor store that I used to frequent was owned by this old guy that worked 14 hours a day, seven days a week.

He had collared a shoplifting teenage punk; I was entering the store and the owner was fishing a bottle of gin out of the kid's pocket when the punk decided to bolt for the door...straight at me.

I just gave him a lowered left shoulder ala Ronnie Lott and the punk hit the deck flat on his back. Then I told him to stay down, and for the owner to call the police.

Sawdust
 
Big Box Mart Inc is on their own. Unless there is imminent bodily harm to someone AND I have the means and opportunity to do something.

So in general call me Bystander Bob.
 
Let them have their fun

The "Loss Control" folks at Wal-Mart are the only ones who are having any fun, dashing into the parking lot after "perps", for minimum wage + 10%.

And besides, where do you think the Mall Ninjas get their start? If you interfere with that process, someday, when you're at The Gap, a MN might not have your back! :D
 
When I CCW I'm under no delusions that I'm a cop. My sidearm is to protect the safety of myself and loved ones when confronted with immediate danger of serious bodily harm - period.

As an adult, fighting with who you assume is a bad guy is a LOT different than when you were a kid and had a fistfight after school. Today, it means you risk not only lawsuits from the bad guy, but possible prosecution from the police, and serious injury and illness as well. (What if the BG has a weapon, and is better than you, or just plain lucky? Suppose you bloody his nose or split his lip? Bloodborne pathogens, anyone? Aids? Hepatitis?)

I can see stepping in to help the little old man who owns the corner store, but a big box with paid security? No.
 
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