Intrac TT-33 Poland 7.62x25........9mm Luger?

[Aaron/VA]

My grandfather has a 1954 Intrac Poland 7.62x25, but the Barrel is stamped 9mm, so is it safe to assume that you can shoot 9mm Luger ammo through this pistol? I found all kinds of info on them and such, but the 9mm barrel throws me off a bit, I think he also has another barrel with it that doesn't have anything stamped on it, I'm assuming that is the 7.62x25 barrel...

Thanks Guys.

And just for curiosity's sake, is there any value to these things?

 

[Deus Machina]

Test the barrel to make sure it's 9mm Luger and not 9mm Makarov.

That said, I've seen a coule (all Chinese in my case) Tokarevs that came with two barrels like that. Considering 9mm and 7.62x25 are almost if not exactly the same length and share a base diameter and just about the same total recoil energy, swapping them was just a matter of swapping the barrel and loading up.

 

[Shadow 7D]

Look up TT-33
as you have the polish variant of it, standard WWII Soviet pistol.
as for the barrel, yes, they can shoot 9mm x19 (nato luger etc.)

There have been a number of companies that produced aftermarket barrels, along with factory made ones (hungary - tokegypt and Norinco) like the 213 that came with both the 9mm barrel and x25 barrel in the box.

So put a 9mm round in it, and check the fit, or take out the gauges and ensure the head space and even wikipedia has the dimensions.

 

[Shadow 7D]

I have never heard of a 9mak conversion for a TT

 

[AethelstanAegen]

I have never heard of a 9mak conversion for a TT

There are definitely 9mm conversions out there. I know Norinco made a Tokarev version in 9mm that was pretty widely available back in the day. Just check the head space etc.

 

[Snowdog]

I've certainly aware of Tokarevs chambered in 9x19, but I've never heard of a 9x18 conversion for the Tokarev either.

I'm learning new things every day, so I won't say there's no such thing.

The 7.62x25 is longer than the 9x19, it's only the case head that's nearly identical.

Here's an image from photobucket that demonstrates this:

 

[we are not amused]

Since others have talked about the conversion kits, I will answer your other question.

If it is in decent shape, the price for the 7.62x25 version is about $280 to 320. I would add at least $50 more for the conversion barrel. (the price of the two sold together)

That is just a rough estimate, based upon a quick internet search and what I saw at a recent gun show.

 

[rich642z]

The 7.62x25 is a corrosive ammo that has to have a chrome-moly barrel and you have to clean it in hot soap and water. I have the Polish carbine in that caliber and it hits like a .357. and its necked down almost,like a .357 sig but,just a tad taller in shape. Otherwise than that,it's a heck of a round with a .357 mag hitting something hard.

 

[kozak6]

If there barrel is stamped 9mm, then it's a 9x19 barrel. The other barrel is probably 7.62x25.

The internal diameter should be smaller than on the 9mm barrel.

It's important to be mindful of which ammo and which barrel you are using. A mix up would be a bad thing.

 

[Shadow 7D]

Dues wrote in post 2

Test the barrel to make sure it's 9mm Luger and not 9mm Makarov.

I have never heard of a 9mm MAKAROV (as in 9mm x 18mm) conversion for a TT

There are definitely 9mm conversions out there. I know Norinco made a Tokarev version in 9mm that was pretty widely available back in the day. Just check the head space etc.

At least 250, the polish ones with a bubba'd 'import safety' were selling for 200-250 from the distributors, if yours is lacking the import safety (and hence MUCH more collectible) with a conversion barrel - esp. in these times of $200+ cases of 7.62tok - ask 400+ would not be unreasonable.

 

[Snowdog]

The 7.62x25 is a corrosive ammo that has to have a chrome-moly barrel and you have to clean it in hot soap and water.

Yes, kind of. Surplus 7.62x25 is corrosive and needs to be cleaned accordingly. However, a good number of folks don't use surplus (which is not even an option now for many) and instead use recently manufactured ammunition from Sellier & Bellot, PRVI Partizan, and Wolf Gold, none of which are corrosive. Though it is best to presume 7.62x25 is corrosive unless it's commercial ammunition that's clearly marked Boxer primed or non-corrosive.

As for chrome-line barrels, they are beneficial but not required. They are more tolerant of poor maintenance, but a none chromed barrel is perfectly fine as long as it's not foolishly neglected after shooting Berdan-primed ammo. Many of my surplus rifles have seen only corrosive ammunition and still have minty barrels that are mirror bright.

 

[Aaron/VA]

Thanks for all the info guys, I ran a few rounds through it today and it shot fine, couple of stove pipes, but that's probably a ammo issue. It does have a safety, and a pretty sweet piece considering it's from the 50's.

Thanks again guys.