Is a fanny pack considered concealed? In Florida?

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LegalAlien, you are absolutely right.

Until my permit comes through I do and will continue to carry my weapon in my car. The Bersa I keep loaded in the glove box. The 9mm is on th efloor under my seat in a holster with a snap on it. Both are considered to be enclosed in a case.

Remember, if you carry in the glove box, put your registration and insurance card over the visor, it's embarrassing to have the nice officer who stopped you for a tail light out drawing down on you because he sees the gun in the glove box you are reaching into. Happened to someone I know:rolleyes:
 
I don't know what it is like there in SW Florida, but here in the Redneck Riviera, (Panhandle), wearing a fanny pack will likely win you an introduction to Bubba. He is the local biker bar bouncer and part time fashion critic.
 
I don't know what it is like there in SW Florida, but here in the Redneck Riviera, (Panhandle), wearing a fanny pack will likely win you an introduction to Bubba. He is the local biker bar bouncer and part time fashion critic.

Then Bubba might just be introduced to the personal defense tool safely encased inside the fanny pack. Tool has a name . . starts with a B and ends with 92FS.

So, let him critize my fashion (yeah, I find it comfortable to wear one) . . words don't faze me . . . I wear whatever is comfortable.
 
Yeah, I spoke out of turn and then edited my post. I didn't notice the CCL part, dyslexia sucks when you are trying to get a response up in a timely manner. Apologies to you.

No problemo. I could see how what I wrote could be misinterpretted, it was meant strictly as a reply to this thread's specific question and outside that context it could be misleading.

However, it is always a good idea to know the law. I would never take advice on the law over the internet as gospel. Free legal advice is worth every dime you pay for it. That's why I always suggest looking it up yourself.

Yes indeed, and look it up every so often even after you think you know the law. It's a moving target. Not too long ago carrying a concealed weapon without a license was just a misdemeanor and now as you pointed out it is a felony.

That all being said, I still wouldn't opt for the fanny pack, I've carried my wallet and such in them because wallets in my pocket and regular belts put pressure on the nerves in my low back and cause pain, but fanny packs are too unwieldy in my opinion to get a gun into play quickly. I have opted to just deal with the pain and wear a belt.

This will sound weird but my wallet used to be so fat with cash that I couldn't put it in my back pocket. If I tried to drive with it there it'd play havoc with my sciatic nerve. My job at the time paid in cash most frequently. I didn't use a belt pouch to solve the problem but I can definately agree that sitting on stuff in your back pockets can be a problem. Right now I often carry a flashlight back there and I'm looking at one of those Maxpedition pouches that attach to your belt.

As far as fanny pack access goes, it all depends on design and need. If I was going to carry that way I'd get one that allows me to put my hand on my weapon when I feel threatened. I really don't care if a potential badguy thinks I look weird walking by with my hand in a bag. I'd rather he think I'm weird than attack and if he does attack my response will be that much faster. Other situations allow for more access time, like if you were in that fast food restaurant that got shot up in South Florida recently. You hear the shooting, take two seconds to draw the weapon while you orient yourself. Quick draw is mostly not related to self defense. Either you have advanced warning, enough time or are suddenly and unexpectedly attacked. If it's the latter than your first response needs to be immediate empty hand defense to defeat the incoming attack and put some space between you and the attacker. I'm not saying use a complicated system of nesting bags and locking devices because that's just nuts but you should be able to make a zippered pouch work.

Every form of concealed carry is a compromise that gives up one or more advantages to gain concealment. That's a practical reason why open carry should be legal, just like it says in the constitution. When are we ever going to get some law enforcement action on the constitution?
 
I carry a gun in case of the possibility that somebody would try to make me wear a fanny pack.
 
I carry in Desantis Inner Peace at 3 - 3:30ish. But with summer approaching I can see where there are situations where a fanny would come in handy. Especially the idea of having all wallet, spare mag, keys, etc in there too.

I am leaning towards http://www.londonbridgetrading.com/...UniqueID=7DD4ADE5-3D63-48B5-BD00-1C94E583B26B as I've read good things about it.

But I just can't get past the idea of how dorky they look. I'm not saying you fanny pack fans are dorks, just that I am shallow and would feal like a dork wearing one!
 
:rolleyes:

I don't know if it's considered concealed, but it definately is considered less than masculine.

and again :rolleyes::rolleyes:

ust like the low sneakers with the black socks. get some short shorts, put on the f-- bag and a tight t-shirt, and you'll be ready for the ladies!

and then there's :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

might as well carry a purse.

Hey, I just love sexual stereotypes and implicit name calling, don't you?

BTW, Stevereno, I'll be sure and tell my National Guard buddy....the one with the diabetes...that he's no man because he carries. After all, I read it on teh interweb..... :barf:

Springmom
 
Well then you're a likely candidate to help clear up my misunderstanding. What is dorky about a pouch on a belt? Are all pouches on belts dorky, like ammo pouches attached to web gear or a carpenter's tool belt? Are pockets also dorky?

Ammo pouches on web gear aren't dorky. You would, however, look a little weird wearing fully loaded webgear as every day attire. :scrutiny:

Pockets aren't dorky because they are "supposed" to be there.

I suppose my fannypackism can best be summed up by this: nobody looks good wearing them. You look about as good as you would wearing knee-high buckskin boots and a beret. Like I said, it's my issue that's the hang up, not the fannypackanados.

Oh great. Now the fans of buckskin boots and berets will be after me. :what:
 
So freaking out about belt pouches is a metrosexual thing then?

Yes, I am a slave to fashion. :barf:

Which is why I still wear a Members Only Jacket, $8 jeans from wall-mart and t-shirts with the sleves cut off.

If only I still had my Parachute Pants.
 
It is rumored/believed/bandied about that criminals will go out of their way to shoot you in the head because you have a fanny pack (ditto for vests and 5.11 Tactical baseball caps).
Not the most aesthetically pleasing thing out there (ditto for many other articles of apparel). I strongly advise against wearing 'em to black or white tie events.
Seriously, do some of you people believe folks driving past you think "Hark! What a sexy beast!" when they look at you?
Most people look at you just long enough to avoid walking into you.
 
Stay away from that model of pack. The clasp is half way around your body. FAR too easy for someone to unhook it and take off with your gun.
 
Most of the guys I know who work out, have them, including myself. If you have on workout gear, tee shirts, and workout pants, "no belt" for any holster to hook on to. And I can tell pretty much who has a fanny pak that has more than thier glasses in it. Most of the off duty deputies also use them because of the heat, and if you leave a firearm in your locker, there is no telling where it may end up. I did have a few guys who used to ask to lock em up , in our safe, but not many.
 
In tourist areas, they are a good way to hide a weapon. Wear sandals, shorts, some sort of Disney shirt, and your fanny pack. You blend into the tourists, and no one will suspect a thing.

There are many ways to conceal that you are carrying a weapon. I have one myself, and I have been known to use it, especially when I am at the beach.
 
I don't know if it's considered concealed, but it definately is considered less than masculine.

...only by those unsure or insecure about their masculinity.

I never understood folks who had a fear of not being considered masculine enough.
 
thou doest protest too much

Boy there sure are a lot of fashion critics,and homophobes eager to put nametags on things sounding more like Obamma, if you don't like the situation, then offer an alternative that is feasable. When I lived up North, I never actually saw a fanny pak, always able to get one of my guns and holsters to fit any occasion. Once I moved down to where it rarelly gets below 80 degrees, and summer is right around 100,every day, you really run out of places to "hide" a gun, I don't think our deputies would take kindly to the feminine references that a couple of the fashion police made. As far as it taking time to get to your weapon, it takes about 1 second, if you know the proper technique, using both hands. Until someone comes up with an invisible gun, it's either you carry the Pak, or you carry a very small pistol in your strong side pocket. Inside the pants holsters have the same problems with perspiration, and convience.I have worked inside and outside since moving here and would never go back to snow again, don't like it, miss it, and can't understand why I didn't do it earlier in my life, instead of going on vacation, I live there now, and they speak English, even though it's a second language in Miami, you wear jeans with your shirt out in the evening, or on days that you will be working inside, and it's cooler, it's about the only alternative aside from an ankle holster which never works out with anything other than a seacamp or a kel-tek, then you have the same problem of bieng able to get it out in time unles you wear a collar and carry a bible, (ask for a second to prey before the bad guy blows your head off), 'another urban legend', There aren't many alternatives that are comfortable and allow the use of the gun that you prefer , which I assume are either 1911's style, or tuperware type pistol, or a 357 mag. I would like nothing better than using a different type of holster but that bieng next to impossible, I would rather take the pak and know I have a "real gun" in an emergency, and some spare ammo to boot.I have a large box of holsters as many here have, and my wife dosen't understand why it takes me an extra 15 minutes to figure out what holster, gun. and belt, to wear, that dosen't print, when we are going to a nice place for dinner or out with friends. I have seen enough threads in here to know how many guys and ladies feel about always having a wepon, and that is the most important thing, if Mr Blackwell, is going to cut me from his top ten best dressed for combat list, then so be it. There is an idea for a new topic, for you folks who like polls, send in pictures of your "dressed for work" attire. That would probablly be funny to see. Each to thier own.I have been fortunate in life even though I have had some tough times, I have been fortunate in having two business partners in different businesses one was Gay, and one is straight. The gay guy was one of the most honest stand up people I ever met, and he died of Aids back around 1990, never had to wonder if he was stealing money, or that he was not going to show up. He helped build a business from 5 people to 35, came in earlier left later never complained and lived the furthes distance from the business than anyone. The straight guy who I am still in touch with, is a bully and a master thief, and very proud of that, if left unchallenged, he would find a way to help himself to anything that he could, at 300lbs and having been a security person, not many people stood up to him, never judge a book by it's cover.He had several behavioral problems Catagorizing people into social, sexual, or just about any other stereotype just dosen't work. I still do it, sometimes we do it to fit in or we have a brain fart, but I would rather have 1 gay guy standing next to me in a fight, that I could count on, than 3 big mouth straight guys who fold like an ironing board. Just my 2 cents I value people for who they are, not what I think they are because someone else told me how to think of them, or if they share my religious or sexual beliefs, I just want to know if they can do the job well. But if you start making a list of all of the qualities that someone must have in order for you to put a value on thier work, you will eliminate a lot of good people because of ignorance and limit your oppertunities in general. By the way Gays come is all shaprs and sizes, my businesspartner went out wit Cops, Garbage men, and lawyers, and the last one was a top surgeon, who let him 14 million, He never collected it due to his death, by try not to think out of the box, there are extremes in anything, you may have a married friend or realtive who is gay , and ne ain't going to tell you if he feels that you are biggoted.
 
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