Is cheep .45 Ammo No MOre? Need Help.. Too Da*n Expensive

[Evergreen]

I have looked and looked, but cannot find this stuff for a reasonable price anywhere. Looks like I will be having to pay 40 cents / round for some CCI Blazer Garbage for plinking. I guess I better make my shots count or use my 22LR is my conceal carry piece, since practicing with .45 will soon be impossible.

Anyone know a place that has the ammo? Should I hold out and wait to see if the .45 ammo will ever be replenished in the stores? I don't reload, I know I am silly not to, just never have gotten into it and don't have tools to do it now. So, I am stuck looking for .45 ammo.

Our Wal-Marts, Bi-Marts and about every other store has been dried out of .45 ammo for long time.. The few that do have it, will ration it to the point wher it isn't even worth the gas money to go drive out and get it.

Iam stuck payhing .60/round for Winchester White Box, .40/round for blazer. Heck, 5 months ago I was payign half this amount. Whats going on?

Should I wait, or just fork out the high cash on gunbroker so I can have something to shoot?

 

[sheephearder]

The ammo is more available here (Spokane WA) than it was two months ago. I reload and even components have doubled in price. 22s have been hard to find locally but they are starting to show up. Give it some more time before you make any changes, I hope it will get better but who knows. Good luck : Bill

 

[TexasRedneck]

Well...it's a supply chain issue that appears to be starting to clear - but think about it - you don't want to do anything to help reduce your costs, just complain about someone else not having what you want at a price you want to pay.

Sorry - but that's just life. I jumped back into reloading with both feet shortly after the election because I knew that things were going to go crazy for a while. I'm sitting on a buncha supplies now, not having to participate in the hysteria of ammo or components. Do I like it? No - but with some planning and investment I'm pretty "bulletproof" (sorry - cheap pun! ) to the angst many are now experiencing. Many of us got spoiled by gun friendly atmospheres, and forgot the lessons learned from the "Clinton experience" (myself included). I sold off my reloading gear, revelled in the ready supply of ammo at low prices.....and almost blew it.
I can tell you this much - I will never ever be without reloading equipment or supplies again - period. No matter how cheap it becomes, I'll forever maintain a base stock of supplies and rotate 'em through - because we cannot predict at what point this might recur.

Lesson learned.......

 

[Damon555]

My only handgun was a .45 ACP for quite some time.....I have a good bit of ammo stashed away for that, but I'm going to ration it.....I solved the ammo price and availability issues by purchasing a 9 mm....9mm ammo is still expensive but at 1/2 the price of .45 ACP ammo I'll take it.

 

[Birdmang]

I got 50 count boxes of Aguila(sp?) FMJ .45 last weekend for 18.99. The gun shop also had about 200 boxes of it. I guess it depends on where you live.

 

[beretta-neo]

Actually, Blazer is not bad stuff. Its clean, and is accurate.

There was a magazine article in one of the handgun mags a couple of months ago. Comparing a lot of the common target ammo.

The brass version of Blazer was the most accurate.

 

[j21blackjack]

I started reloading myself after 3 months straight with no ammo anywhere in town. Now if I could only find primers . I love Blazer Brass, it's all I used to shoot before I started reloading.

 

[oneounceload]

Have you bothered to look online? Lots of places are getting supplies in regularly - beats driving all over the place. Personally, I would be reloading - you can buy a used single stage press and equipment for the price of a few boxes of ammunition............

 

[TexasRedneck]

Google primers an' reloading - there's a number of potential sources out there, and it's just a matter of findin' it.

 

[doc2rn]

I am lucky our locals have tired of not being able to find it and our local Bail Bondsman has stepped up to purchase a liscence to manufacture ammo. Long live Viking One ammo! I will no longer be dependent on wallie world! And after buyin my last 5 boxes at $23.99 I vow never again to be raked over the coals, unless its to support the local shop!

 

[Mags]

What do you know someone else is sugesting to start reloading to some one who can't find affordable ammo. How the heck is someone going to do that? Posts some links to available primers and reloading bullets if they are so darn plentiful.

 

[Evergreen]

Ok , can I teach myself to reload or do I need some more experience person to teach me? I don't know anyone who reloads. Is there a book, manual, is it safe for me to try alone? Where can I find good deals on equipment? I won't bother reloading rifle ammo for now, since its available, but handgun ammo is scarce. I gave up my 9mm stuff, because I don't feel comfortable depending on 9mm in life-death situaiton. Yeah, I don't want to get in 45 vs 9mm debate, diffferent strokes for different folks.

ANyhow, I don't think I can get into reloading right away and I need some ammo.. I know some can beat me over the head for not reloading, but that isn't going to make the situation better at this present time.

Yes, I have looked online at every place possible, ATG, Natchez, Able Ammo, Ammoman, Wideners, etc , etc , etc...

Yeah,I think I will go with Blazer Aluminum case if I can find it under $300, but most are selling that stuff for like $400+.

ANyone trust shooting that steel case wolf stuff through their hand guns? For the price, I don't really find it a bargain.. I know steel case is a no-no for an AR, but what about a semi auto pistol, like S&W M&P 45?

 

[Marlin 45 carbine]

primers particular pistol are scarce this area. so are pistol JHP's.
online cast slugs are good supply but primers is frustrating. I lucked out awhile back at a mom&pop gun shop and got a K of sp mag Feds for 24 $ + tax. I'm in the market for more sp's as I load .380acp, .32acp, .357 mag and 9 para for myself and family and lp's for my .45's.
some fella in Idaho has a good supply of plated and jacketed slugs of evidently good quality at reasonable prices.

 

[Mags]

+1 for the guy in Idaho Rocky mountain Reloading here is their link.
http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/main.sc;jsessionid=88183B30B30DC686BEC3406BB2FCBE40.qscstrfrnt01

And for the 45 ACP problem look at Georgia Arms remanufactured ammo. Here is their link.
http://georgia-arms.com/index.aspx

Some more advice take it for what you want but only use brass cased ammo so when you do get into reloading you will already have brass available. I taught myself to load I haven't destroyed anything yet so I guess I am doing alright just get a good manual and follow it to the "T".

 

[TexasRedneck]

I taught myself to reload - but it involved a LOT of research and reading - and very little of it on the 'net, primarily over concern regarding valid and safe information. There's plenty of excellent printed material on reloading that you can trust. A lot of times, asking around and finding who the locals go to for reloading supplies will give you a great local resource for finding local folks that DO reload.
Since you don't say where you're from, how are we supposed to know where to suggest? I am bashin' on you, but I am trying to point out that you make it difficult to help.
And rather than coming in wanting everything handed to you (sorry, but that's the way it reads to me), why not do some reading and research for yourself? For one thing, it'll help you to start recognizing who the *good* information sources are, and who the turkeys are that should be ignored. I spent months searching out supply points - but you want me to just give 'em up because you *want* them. Don't misunderstand me - I've shared sources with others, but it's after some exchanges of information, etc., where I knew they were "real".
I don't fault you for not reloading - it's a personal choice, and a potentially dangerous one. That leaves you at the mercy of various ammo suppliers - and those I can't help with directly. I can tell you that I did an online search, and found 45 ammo in stock at Natchez (among others). That, of course, leads me to think that you didn't look very hard or diligently.
Again - I'm not trying to slam ya, but I do have to question the veracity of your claims when I find product on the very site you claim to have checked for yourself.

http://www.natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?c...roup=2&searchBy=size&ammoSize=300&startRow=26

 

[TexasRedneck]

There's a neat li'l trick I use - spread a tarp out at the range. It'll catch the bulk of your brass, plus non-reloaders will often come up an' offer their brass when it becomes obvious what you're doing. Sure beats leanin' over for 30+ minutes!

 

[Evergreen]

Since you don't say where you're from, how are we supposed to know where to suggest? I am bashin' on you, but I am trying to point out that you make it difficult to help.

I am from the Evergreen state.. SOrry, thought my name gave it a way.. For those who don't know the Evergreen state, that is the one named after our first prez, George Washington.

And rather than coming in wanting everything handed to you (sorry, but that's the way it reads to me), why not do some reading and research for yourself? For one thing, it'll help you to start recognizing who the *good* information sources are, and who the turkeys are that should be ignored. I spent months searching out supply points - but you want me to just give 'em up because you *want* them.

Hell, I am willing to pay for it.. Is that what you call asking for handouts? My long hours of sweat, blood, tears on the job is hardly what I consider asking for a handout. Sorry, I just don't got the time to reload, doesn't mean I am trying to force you to give me some of your stash.

That leaves you at the mercy of various ammo suppliers - and those I can't help with directly. I can tell you that I did an online search, and found 45 ammo in stock at Natchez (among others). That, of course, leads me to think that you didn't look very hard or diligently.

Oh cmon.. I have done plenty of research.. And most places are out of stock, maybe it is you who haven't done research, since you are the slick, studly reloader, why do you need to worry about buying ammo? I envy you and wish I could have been prepared and knowledgable like you. Sorry, some of us suck on this earth and I am one of them. As far as Natchez, screw those prices, I'll stick to gun broker. Check out Able Ammo, and tell me what they have in stock. I'd go with Ammo to Go or Wideners, but both are bone dry. They got some light grain frangible Lawman ammo, but I don't want that and its too spendy for plinking. Thank you....


I guess the original question was: should I buy the overpriced ammo that I could have bought for 1/2 price 6 months ago or should I hold out? Seeing how high 45 ammo is, I think I will stick to plinking with my .44 magnums since it is more fun and it cost me about the same. rofl. Come to think about it, if I can get some deals on .44 special, maybe that would make a dandy plinker.

 

[TexasRedneck]

Sorry dude - but Washington state is purty big last time I looked - and by not being upfront, it's hard to really answer. Your original comments led me to believe that you had tried Natchez and they didn't have any - not that the price was high.
They ARE high - and so are their components, which is why I'll not do business w/'em now OR in the future, because other vendors are maintaining prices relatively stable, they just run out. At least they're not gouging me as they do so.

As to buying the overpriced ammo....I wouldn't. I'm already seeing (as others are as well) some stocks returning to the stores. Not as much as before, but it's getting there - in part, I'm sure, because the nervous ones have stocked up, and a lot of the folks buying their first guns have 'em and have done w/their initial target shootin'. Buy just what ya need as you need it, and be patient.

 

[Evergreen]

I'm in Portland/Vancouver area.. If you know some people/places around here that has got plinking-grade 45ACP for a reasonable price please let me know. Please don't say Wal-Mart or Bi-Mart.. The people there are becoming afraid of me like I am some kinda wingnut, for calling them everyday. I just have given up on them.

As for Georgia Arms :banghead: .. Out of stock, due to lack of components, oh wow I am just so shocked.

 

[TexasRedneck]

Wahl, ah ain't in yer neck o' the woods, but Cabela's has built a pretty good rep for shipping even the b/o stuff out fairly quickly. They at least give you an ETA on your order, and they generally beat their estimates.

 

[sidheshooter]

Evergreen,

I'm also in the evergreen state; I'd say both get on the backorder list at Cabella's and keep an eye on the stock at the above mentioned Georgia Arms site. For example, they have 1000 rounds of gold dot (both 185 and 230 in +P loadings) for 510... that's the equivalent of 25 a box of 50 for a serious round that could also be used socially; not half bad, and *really* not bad in this current climate (IMHO).

I payed something more than 20 per box of american eagle 230 ball at the local Mom n' Pop, just to have some to run for fun in the short term. That's all I'll do for the time being; I'm actually considering getting a 9mm again, the .45 is just getting too expensive to shoot as much as I'd like.

 

[oneounceload]

There's NO such thing as "overpriced" ammo...it may be more than YOU are willing to pay, but if someone else IS willing then so be it - it's called supply and demand in a free market.

If enough people are not willing to pay a certain price, certain things will happen - the maker/seller will lower their price, their competitor will, or someone else will start-up a business to compete and gain market share

 

[Evergreen]

I payed something more than 20 per box of american eagle 230 ball at the local Mom n' Pop, just to have some to run for fun in the short term. That's all I'll do for the time being; I'm actually considering getting a 9mm again, the .45 is just getting too expensive to shoot as much as I'd like.

I just sold my 9mm and most of my 9mm ammo Well, I don't regret it.. Whats the point of me practicing with a gun I won't use for self-defense. I just don't trust my life to the 9mm.. Even if I have to pay big bucks for the .45, I'd rather train with that. But, 9mm ammo is hardly much differnet in price than .45.. Even the 9mm gold Dot is almost equivalent in price to the 45 gold dot.. Its just that blazer and the other el ehapo companies


BTW.. Scored 5 boxes of 22LR Federal HP 550 Red box at Wal-Mart today. Paid $15.00/ box.. I got 22LR coming out of my ears now I practically had to fight the huge group crowding the ammo case for the ammo. At first the guy at Wal-Mart said he would only sell me 2 since there was big crowd who wanted it.. Somehow or other he ended giving me 5 and shorting some of the other guys.. WHat a nice guy The lady at the door who required to see my receipt told me she hoped I wasn't going to do all my practicing on people.. ANother gunphobe.. I told her I really hope I don't... LOL

Now, if only my magic wand can convert the 22LR into 45ACP, my day will be set.

 

[bearmgc]

Evergreen, you silly man. Reload.

 

[TexasRedneck]

I understand his dialemma - it's pretty danged expensive ta set up to reload. I lucked out finding a deal on my Dillon 650 used - but even then, each caliber comes up ta nigh-on $300 by the time I'm done (each caliber gets its' own powder measure). Then again, whenever I set up a caliber, I do a minimum run of 3,000 rounds, which means I immediately recoup my costs of the new conversion.
Don't even want to THINK about what I've got tied up in inventory right now - IIRC, I've got 4k 45, 5k 40, 2.5k 380 and 4k 38. Got twice that in primers, an' enough powder to load 'em all......so ah'm set for the rest of the year at least!