Is is time to join Libertarian Party?

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Live Free Or Die said:
I guess I just don't see the point in joining the Libertarian party (or any other party for that matter).
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The point could be: if the major parties see another party increase in members and also an increase in the money they raise, it sends a message. And also, if the party increases in members and funds, others wouldn't be so reluctant to take their true stand as well and join them. It has to start somewhere. That's the only way to make a difference.
 
ssr said:
The point could be: if the major parties see another party increase in members and also an increase in the money they raise, it sends a message. And also, if the party increases in members and funds, others wouldn't be so reluctant to take their true stand as well and join them. It has to start somewhere. That's the only way to make a difference.
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I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree that membership numbers are critical to a party's success. People can and will vote for Libertarian candidates, even if we're not a member of the party. I would argue that the number of votes received by a Libertarian candidate sends a much more important message than the number of party members.

As far as fundraising success, I also claim that this is separate from party membership. Especially now that the LP no longer requires dues. I supported Badnarik by attending fundraiser events where I donated money or bought fundraiser merchandise. I would not have donated any more money had I been a member of the party, and I suspect many people feel similarly.
 
CentralTexas said:
"The Libertarian Party still maintains their pro-drug platform, right?"

Nope, & never had a "pro-drug" platform, pro-freedom yes, pro-drug no.
Say, your party still have that pro-fascist tell other adults what to do platform? :evil:
CT
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However, each state also has its own LP. I was a national LP card
carrier in the mid-late 80s. However, I saw my state LP become the
the single issue "pro-drug" party in the 90s and got out of all of it. It
was disappointing to see some of the same names in the LP as NORML
and know the LP was driving away a lot of conservative mainstream
people in my state. Of course, this stance made the LP a joke and thereby
benefited the Dems and Repubs.

I seem to recall LP candidates doing well in '92 who did not toke, er, tote
the NORML position as their main line of pursuit while running for office.
However, if you will also recall that the Ross Perot Party was created
overnight in that time period to keep a true 3rd Party (chiefly the LP)
from taking hold at that time. It also benefited the Dems and the future
pursuit of the socialist agenda by splitting the convservative vote.

Yes, everything went according to plan.....:evil:
 
Remember: voting for "the lesser of two evils" is, still, voting for the evil. Stop fooling yourselves that the Republican party and president will be any different -and better- than Democrats. It's been proven for the past hundred or so years. Also, if everyone would stop complaining about how libertarians do not matter, and start voting for them, we could win every election. Or, at least, become a formidable second, presenting the public with a real debate and choice.
Some people object to one issue in the libertarian agenda (such as the drug policy), but put up with repeated Republican treason, and keep finding excuses...
 
ill vote independent..at least it has the guts to say no to illegal immigration in its mission statement..the more Bush says he is going to "fix" immigration the more illegals cross the border.

wolf
 
We're never going to have a multi-party political culture unless we support multiple parties. I'd like to see a minimum of five or six clearly differentiated, fiercely competitive political parties in America instead of the Republicrat-Democan single party of big government we have now.
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And all you people who make comments like this...
Join the Libertarian Party? Why not! Hundreds of people already have.
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...you just keep on making fun. I suppose it's too much to ask for a discussion of policy and ideas. Better to mock the number of people in a specific party. That accomplishes a lot. Well done.
 
I've met way too many people who base their vote on who can win. Almost like handicapping a horse race. They want to be associated with the winner rather than be associated with the loser. They forget it's a vote, not a wager!

The Democrats and Republicans want to take my privacy, guns, money and freedom. The differences between the two are quite minor. Who are YOU going to vote for next time? Keep voting for the major two parties and you'll get a party that takes instead of gives and protects. I really had great hopes for GW Bush; I guess things just aren't working out for him and us. But I'm sure a Democrat under the same circumstances would have messed it up just as well.
 
The Libertarian party likes to lose. It's used to losing. And it does a very good job at losing. The local parties tend to be social clubs for people looking for a soap-box. Party discipline and control is virtually unknown. I like libertarian views, but the Libertarian party is another matter.
 
Cosmoline said:
The Libertarian party likes to lose. It's used to losing. And it does a very good job at losing. The local parties tend to be social clubs for people looking for a soap-box. Party discipline and control is virtually unknown. I like libertarian views, but the Libertarian party is another matter.
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I'm not sure about the 'like to lose' part, but Libertarians are experienced at it, if nothing else.

As for the local Libertarian Party...they are organized enough to post a weekly reminder in the county newspaper about their monthly meetings. Yet when I called the listed number, and wrote to the provided e-mail address to find out more, my messages all went unanswered. The newspaper blurb doesn't list the time or location of the meetings, and they don't bother to call back when someone wants information. That's just terrific!

Again, I assert that it is not necessary to join a political party in order to support that party's candidates. A vote is worth a lot more than party membership, and cash donations are still cash, even when they come from someone with no party affiliation.
 
Where is the High Road Party? ;)

We already have a leader. We're organized. We all have the same goals and desires for our country.

Think about it... lol

Randy
 
dasmi said:
And all you people who make comments like this...
...you just keep on making fun. I suppose it's too much to ask for a discussion of policy and ideas. Better to mock the number of people in a specific party. That accomplishes a lot. Well done.
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Why should we have a "discussion of policy and ideas" of the Libertarian Party? That's no more relevant than having a "discussion" with the crazy guy running around the bus station saying the world is coming to an end. They BOTH have the exact results come election time!:neener:

The Libertarian Party doesn't need ME to mock them, they do a good job of it themselves. Take a look at the LP's last presidential candidate; a 50+ year old man who stills lives at home with his mommy!:eek: And I'm supposed to take the Libertarian Party seriously??? LOL

Yeah, my mocking may not accomplish much, but it's still more than the Libertarian Party has EVER accomplished.
 
Love that thinking about not being able to vote for the LP because the drug issue........meanwhile both parties are running towards socialism (differant speeds....debatable) and not even giving a rats youknowwhat about individual liberty......BUT God forbid that drug issue.

If more and more good people just vote their minds instead of voting based on fear or odds......the better off we would be. IMHO.
 
Live Free Or Die said:
As for the local Libertarian Party...they are organized enough to post a weekly reminder in the county newspaper about their monthly meetings. Yet when I called the listed number, and wrote to the provided e-mail address to find out more, my messages all went unanswered. The newspaper blurb doesn't list the time or location of the meetings, and they don't bother to call back when someone wants information. That's just terrific!
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I had a very similar experience. I emailed the local branch and got a standard blurb with very limited information about what they stood for other than a pontification from the local chief about Fully Informed Juries. I replied for more information only to be slapped with a "NOREPLY" rejection. They're a coffee club, nothing more.

What we need is for the Democrats to fall apart completely and be replaced by a core of libertarian Republicans and like-minded people. That's the only way it will happen. The system simply does not tolerate three parties. Nor does it tolerate one, however.
 
Well for me, preservation and restoration of the 2nd Amendment in particular is a bigger concern for me than anything else. Hence, I belong to the Libertarian party.
I just can't stand the Dems, but I can't stand the Reps either.
 
m0ntels said:
Where is the High Road Party? ;)

We already have a leader. We're organized. We all have the same goals and desires for our country.

Randy
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There is plenty of evidence that we DO NOT "have the same goals and desires for our country". Safe to say that we would want more adherence to the Constitution, but mostly because it better serves gun ownership. Most of the remaining spectrum is apparent in views expressed here. There are striking generational differences along the expected establishment versus anti-establishment lines. Old hippies might now be conservative grandparents. There would likely need to be some meeting in the middle.
 
cuchulainn said:
Of course, "joining the party" (supporting it with money) is not the same thing as voting for the party.

That might be a workable compromise for those who say, "I'd vote LP if only they were more powerful and had a chance of winning."
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That's a great concept. I might contribute if they stopped wasting money on hopeless presidential elections. On the other hand, I would prefer to see them be or remain Republicans.
 
A few years back, when I was in High School, our Gov't/Econ teacher was going over the political spectrum, and he was convinced that I belonged to the Libertarian party.

Nope. Sorry.

Could never support a party that thinks abortion is alright and should be legal. Could never support a party that thinks the borders should be opened. Could never support a party that thinks that drugs like cocaine and meth and heroine should be legalized.

I am very disalusioned with the Republican Party, and I can't stand the democratic party on most issues as well.

But I will never join a party that I have such a fundemental disagreement with.

I won't join the Democrats, I won't join the Libertarian. I have thought about the America's Party and the Constitution Party as well.

We will see when '08 comes around, but the odds of me voting for (R) are approaching zero at this point.

I.G.B.
 
I would love to joint the Libertarians, but political reality forces me to vote Republican.

By voting for a non-Republican (anyone remember PEROT???) you will elect the Demogog of the week (like the First Philanderer William Jefferson Clinton or Clintoris, or whatever his despicable name is) (you know "is" you know what "is" is DON'T YOU? :cuss:
 
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