Is it crazy to load .45 ACP in a single stage press?

[blarby]

Thanks 918 !

A picture truly is worth a thousand words.... and everyone always laughs at me

Glad I'm not the only one !

 

[918v]

918v, Factory ammo blows up guns on a regular basis. TG with a HP round like 40cal probably leading the pack with KB. Has nothing to do whether it's done on a SS or Progressive, if your QC is bad expect problems.

Is factory ammo loaded on a single stage press? I think not!

 

[ColtPythonElite]

Is it crazy to load 45 ACP on a single stage press?

The question should be is it sane to load on a progressive?

Loading on a single stage press helps to prevent the following:

That gun was damaged from press operator error, not the kind of press it was loaded on.

 

[918v]

Reloading on a dingle stage makes you appreciate every round. It makes you want every round to count. It makes you respect the process, and what goes on inside the chamber as you fire your weapon.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

Reloading on a dingle stage makes you appreciate every round. It makes you want every round to count. It makes you respect the process, and what goes on inside the chamber as you fire your weapon.

And you figure none of that applies to reloading on a progressive?

 

[GT1]

Reloading on a dingle stage makes you appreciate every round. It makes you want every round to count. It makes you respect the process, and what goes on inside the chamber as you fire your weapon. (sic)

SS presses are for BR and bullet swageing.

Step into the modern era. That nonsense about learning the process and paying your dues on a SS press is from the 60s, 70s and 80s, and even then it was because a Star or whatever was top of the line then was way overpriced.

Even if one has to go SS at least get one that was designed recently, not from the 60s.

When you can buy a auto-index turret press for $100 and it is way better than that old SS, their is little reason to go the old way unless you like slow and plodding(Some do, I guess.).

 

[blarby]

Reloading on a dingle stage makes you appreciate every round. It makes you want every round to count. It makes you respect the process, and what goes on inside the chamber as you fire your weapon.

Preach on brother, preach on !

 

[xmanpike]

So.....there is really no concensus I'm gathering

Most people seem pleased with the LNL. Might have to go look at one at my local reloading store...

 

[918v]

And you figure none of that applies to reloading on a progressive?

No. Progressive rounds are abuse as good as progressive politicians.

 

[918v]

Step into the modern era. That nonsense about learning the process and paying your dues on a SS press is from the 60s, 70s and 80s, and even then it was because a Star or whatever was top of the line then was way overpriced.

The modern era is full of MIM.

It sucks.

The era inbetween WWI and WWII was the best era. Just look at the guns made in that era. That was an era when people cared about quality.

 

[cfullgraf]

So.....there is really no concensus I'm gathering

Most people seem pleased with the LNL. Might have to go look at one at my local reloading store...

It depends on what your are comfortable with in terms of operation of the press and type of press.

All of the presses will make good ammunition if operated correctly. Variety is what makes the world go around.

 

[GT1]

The era inbetween WWI and WWII was the best era.

You go ahead and have fun there, then. The golden age of reloading is right now as far as I am concerned, along with many other things in life.

I've read history, it wasn't that great.

So.....there is really no concensus I'm gathering

It's very subjective, as you've found out, it is like asking what is the best car, gun, blondes or red heads, etc etc etc.

Again, it comes down to how much time you want to spend making 1000 rounds, and how much is that time worth to you.

 

[918v]

I've read history, it wasn't that great.

Reading about history is different than holding it in your hand.

 

[John Van Gelder]

Progressive press are great if you are shooting competition, if not a single stage press will serve just fine.

 

[Blue68f100]

As you get older and get arthritis in your hands, tennis elbow and other aching joints the Auto Progressive look very good.

 

[blarby]

Again, it comes down to how much time you want to spend making 1000 rounds, and how much is that time worth to you.

Or , what those 1k rounds ARE

Not all cartridges are created equal.

 

[moxie]

Before WWII heat treat wasn't too pure in 1911s. They did not hold up the way most do now. Ditto S&W revolvers that couldn't handle a steady diet of hot loads. They can now. I majored in History. Learning from it is the best way to avoid mistakes now and in the future. Wallowing in the past is just that...wallowing.

Back on topic, the consensus seems to be that progressives are fine if you need to turn out a lot of rounds and your time is limited and you have the discipline to keep it all straight. Go single stage if you have the time, or need to really get the max in precision.
Your choice. No right or wrong.

 

[FROGO207]

Bovice--How can a progressive that is auto indexing cause a KB?? Well if the propellant fails to drop completely and the next one does drop the whole load plus any left from the previous round. Then if the operator fails to see the different amount in the case and happens to seat a bullet = KB most likely. It does not have to be a double charge to cause trouble. I trust my eyes looking at a loading block full of filled cases more than a powder cop or like device installed on a progressive. Call me crazy but in all the years I have reloaded with only a SS/turret press I have yet to have anything go KB.

 

[kingmt]

Before you decide a LNL is the best choice do a search on them & read all of its problems from the priming system to the powder measures, the bushings, timing, ejection, the case retention, & probably more. People that own them usually stand by them but most don't use them as a progressive. the prime off press or break the flow somewhere between start & finish.

You can get a Pro1000 with case feeder, bullet feeder, dies, shell plate, turret, powder measure, & still buy the Hornady bullets for less the LNL cost by itself & you still have to buy all of the other stuff.

I'm not telling you not to get the LNL just know what your getting before you take the col-aid.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

I've never used a progressive before and I've loaded many .45 Colt, .40 cal and .357 SIG rounds. I'm like GLOOB, I can do 100 an hour without rushing at all, so it's fine with me. That's about how many rounds I shoot in a range trip anyway.

I'm likely going to get a turret soon, but that's still single stage. I get a laugh when people say, "I used to load single stage, but I switched to a turret." It's still single stage friends, you're still only performing one function at a time. Not trying to sound presumptuous or rude, I just think it's kind of funny.

 

[918v]

Before WWII heat treat wasn't too pure in 1911s. They did not hold up the way most do now. Ditto S&W revolvers that couldn't handle a steady diet of hot loads. They can now. I majored in History. Learning from it is the best way to avoid mistakes now and in the future. Wallowing in the past is just that...wallowing.

You compare the appreciation for quality to wallowing in the past. Well, enjoy those LnL rounds and that HiPoint. Polymer and zinc, yeah!

 

[Ridgerunner665]

I wish I had a nickel for every 45acp round I've loaded on a single stage...I could probably buy me a new truck (semi truck) with those nickels.

I use a Lee Classic Turret these days though....fast enough, affordable, and it works.

 

[altitude_19]

You compare the appreciation for quality to wallowing in the past.

A steel plate at 10 yards will never tell the difference between a round tumbled in a chic $200 tumbler and assembled on a Redding single stage and one that went from a Frankford arsenal tumbler to a RCBS Pro 2000. Bank on it.

 

[kingmt]

I was told the stories about paper shoes, chick(something like that) in coffee, along with other quality items.

I do agree that quality isn't there in most items but most reloading tools don't fall in that category.

 

[buck460XVR]

No, it is not crazy to load .45ACP on a single stage. Many folks have been for years and many still are. It does not mean you are stuck in the dark ages or that you are too simple minded to operate anything that does more than one thing at a time. It's a matter of preference and an example of different strokes for different folks. Why folks take such exception to what others prefer is what's crazy.