Mongo the Mutterer
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"quick trip to the US Magistrate", yep, and this will be one po'd Magistrate since he / she will figure you are wasting his time and will probably throw the book at you, since you intrerrupted his docket.
Does anyone know what the max penalty is for transporting a gun into a military base?
You can legally park off of the premises. That is perfectly legal.Some 'rules' don't make much sense. Sidearms don't magically disappear when we drive on USPS or Federal property. Can't put them in the trunk of the vehicle and my 12 volt battery can't power the Klingon Cloaking Device.
I carry kinda regular to and from Base Housing in Ft. Hood.
1st sign that someone doesn't know anything about search and seizure law / caselaw is when they say "probably cause" instead of "probable cause."Just a reminder, they don't need probably cause either to search you or your car.
Thank you for pointing out my typo. That sort of thing happens when you are regularly distracted by things like taking care of a baby. Perhaps next time you can remember that you are on The High Road and be polite about it, right?DMF said:1st sign that someone doesn't know anything about search and seizure law / caselaw is when they say "probably cause" instead of "probable cause."
Are you joking? Are they too stupid to understand the consequences that can come from that level of xray radiation? Does this apply to people who live on base? Do they force a family to submit to an xray or lose their ability to live there for a year?Mainsail said:When you acquiesce to the inspection, they will X-ray the car (with you in it) after which you drive it into the garage. You have to go sit in a small room and wait while they poke around in your car. After 10 or 15 minutes they come and tell you that you’re good to go (hopefully).
Chenega Integrated Systems
Job Description
Company Job Title: Armed Security Guard – Part-time (Air Force)
Chenega Job Title: Guard II, Armed (Air Force)
Location: McChord AFB, WA
Reports To: Shift Supervisor
FLSA Status: Regular, Non-Exempt, Service Contract Act
13. Inspections include the use of various government furnished equipment such as mirrors, hand-held/desktop explosive detectors, X-Ray units, under vehicle surveillance systems, and support to the handler of any employed Military Working Dog Team.
Just because the other guy mispelled "probable" doesn't mean they need it on the installation. I will say it again and it has nothing do with search and seizure case law it has to do with you are on Federal property and your being there is a consent to search. THE MILITARY DOES NOT NEED PROBABLE CAUSE TO SEARCH YOUR VEHICLE ON A MILITARY INSTALLATION. UPON ENTERING THE INSTALLATION YOU HAVE GIVEN CONSENT TO SEARCH. It is what the signs say posted at every installation I have drove through.1st sign that someone doesn't know anything about search and seizure law / caselaw is when they say "probably cause" instead of "probable cause."
NavyLT said:Mainsail,
I was really, really, really close to calling B.S. on the xray story. 26 years military and have never hear of let alone seen vehicle xray.
4. Firearm Registration
Register at the Provost Marshal's Office 287-4001, corner of 58th Street and Battalion Avenue (all guns must be registered including black powder and muzzleloaders)
Do not bring personal firearms on post before registering them
You must declare firearms at gate after registered
All gates open to registered firearms access
I used to live in Colorado Springs. North of the city is the Air Force Academy. One of the main trails that gets used by joggers and bicyclists who enjoy nature trails runs right through the base. It always amused me when I had to go through all kinds of trouble to take my car onto base (I was the dependent of a retired military father) when I could, perfectly legally, cycle right onto base, no real gate, no security check point, barely a sign letting you know that you were entering the base. I don't seem to remember any signs letting you know that you couldn't carry, although I could be wrong.The only time I havent seen an issue with CCW on a military base is at places like Bragg where a main highway runs through a section of the base. I certainly wouldnt want to be a test case.
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Originally Posted by NavyLT
Mainsail,
I was really, really, really close to calling B.S. on the xray story. 26 years military and have never hear of let alone seen vehicle xray.
I know because I was randomly selected. If it were to happen again while I was on my way to work, I would have demanded the Union Rep drive out to the gate. Also, I'm only relating what I was told by the (active duty) Security Forces people who randomly selected me. Now, how enforceable those claims are I cannot say.