Is it me or do others share my feelings

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Why do people insist on shooting everything possible at the range? At the private range and public range here you will find all kinds of crap littered on the range where people shoot at it. Seriously I do not have a problem with the having fun but just leaving the crap out there. Sometimes it looks like they went through their vehicle and got everything they could shoot at.

Also what’s up with the idiots shooting the facilities? I mean come on shooting holes through the roof of the shooting pavilions?

I am no “old fart”, either I am only 36 but it irritates me to see this.

I try to battle back and make time to go over to the range and do nothing but pick up trash.

Rant over just annoyed.
 
I tend to shoot a lot of strange stuff at the range, but I always clean it up before I leave. It's the people who leave all their shot-up junk at the range who tick me off.
 
Some people are just lazy inconsiderate butt heads.
You find these type people everywhere.

For instance because someone was too lazy to put their cart where it belongs it rolled down the Wal Mart parking lot and did $700 damage to my car.
Far too many people go through life just being a waste of oxygen.:mad:
 
Geoff,

Me too, at work we no longer throw old hard drives away for security reasons. I take my staff out to the range every now and then and we shoot up a stack of hard drives.

They have fun and so do I but a rake and and a 5 gallon bucket and we have a pile of "trash" to recycle, which we do deposit at a recycle center.
 
The people you are talking about are simply inconsiderate slobs. I shoot at anything that makes a good target and is allowed on the range. I also clean up my own mess before I leave. Half the time I end up cleaning up what others have left behind also.

Why do I clean up after these jerks? Because I like leave the range in good shape for others and most others show me the same consideration.

However, just because someone else shares one of your interests doesn't mean that person shares your sense of responsibility.
 
I have no problem with people shooting "creative" targets, as long as they clean up. I've shot up old computers and other oddball stuff myself.

One of the most fun things ever was shooting an old keyboard with a .22. You could plink off one key at a time.
 
Everyone needs to pick up after them selves or some environmentalist will have proof they need to why the range should be closed.

Don't give liberals and the courts the ammuniton they need to close another range. :cool:
 
Why? Because for many people, shooting paper targets is boring.

When my range installed swinging metal targets the amount of "range junk" decreased to almost zero.
 
I only shoot at paper targets, or steel plates; with the latter being provided
by the range. I depise people shooting at other objects, scattering debris
all over the range; or shoot'in up the facility~! This is a BIG "NO-NO" at
both of our local ranges~! :scrutiny: :(
 
Went shooting with my dad out on public land today. We shot cans and plastic bottles, since we collected our brass and targets the only trace we left was some scared wildlife and some torn up dirt on the backstop we used. I have no problem with people shooting whatever junk they feel ought to be shot, so long as they pick up the mess that they make.

Btw, I learned today that a shook up can of soda being hit by a .45 round is great entertainment!
 
I suspect I'm going to get some flak on this answer, but it's my opinion.
Why do people insist on shooting everything possible at the range?
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I think generally people shoot at crap because if they shot at targets they would be embarrassed. And I'm not talking about gongs and such. I'm talking about the idiots that bring glass bottles and never pick up after themselves.
 
Like most others, I really don't care what people shoot at, assuming it's safe.

But I am highly irritated by those who don't clean up after themselves. Always make a point to pick up as much trash as I can off our plinking range at the club.

Some folks on the benchrest range don't even go down and clean up their targets when they are done. Just leave them hanging and taking up space in the target area.

People are just completley lazy.
 
As long as it's not glass and they clean it up afterward...I don't care what they shoot.

The "IF" is the fly in the ointment. Too many slob shooters these days. My range is a private/members only arrangement...yet whenever I go, I almost always find empty shotshells...plastic drink bottles...candy wrappers, etc. in the bays...all within a few feet of a trash barrel...and there's a barrel at the divider wall beween pistol bays...so it's not like it would take a lot of effort...and yet, they treat it like a county dump. I take that back! The county dump is cleaner than that.
 
When I used to shoot at an outdoor range with my grandfather there was always a mess. We would pick up what we could, but the ground was literally covered with empty hulls, brass, used target, and other junk like bottles. It's ridiculous, there were three 55-gallon drums close by, and there was barely anything in them:fire: I don't like the face that the slobs are ruining it for decent shooters.
 
I agree with the OP 100%, although it's very hard to make an argument where I live. It's very hard to talk people into cleaning things up when it's all buried under sand the next time there's a good wind in the area.
 
Time in shooting. Young shooters.

Time in shooting. Could be people that hardly shoot so when they go out there they want to shoot everything they see. People like this usually miss more than they hit. Kinda reminds me of the LAPD.

Young shooters. think its cool to blast thinks to watch them blow to pieces. Either way has to do with time in shooting.


Once this phase passes. They start to spend more time out on the range. They start to want to learn how to develop there skills on shooting. Those Same people will go out and buy the best most powerfull scope there is. Put it on there .22lr rifle and think they can now hit targets over 1/2 mile away. so then after a lot of swearing and kicking the scope comes off. Then they are only hitting once in a while stuff at 20 feet with there 4 foot long rifle. Sooner or later some will stop shooting others will want to get better. So they will stick to iron sights and start really practicing. Then learn that there is such a thing as steel swinging targets. This makes them think of the TV they used blast away at. However this time they are now shooting steel at 100 yards and thinking they are sniper qualified. As time goes on they learn more. Maybe even they figure out that the scope they bought for the 22lr needed to be bore sighted. So now they are using it on a .308. Except this time they are hitting things. Then some day they find a sight like THR. they read, they start to understand. Then they too are making fun of the newbees in the sport and are upset at the people who trash the land as they once did.


Does this happen.

YES

Can we do something about it.

YES.


What needs to happen is there needs to be more education and training. Especially for new shooters. Every range should have a beginners course. Even an advanced course. Im sure there are people with 20 years plus on iron sights. But lack the ability to mount and zero in a scope. I know i stink at it. I have the tools. Im just not the greatest. If we had things like this at every range. They would attract more shooters. Even if you have the guy who brings his new box of walmart ammo and out of the box .22lr with an old tv. Thinking he can be John wayne. If we take that new shooter. Put the tv in the trash. Sit him down show him the basics. Set them up to shoot iron sites hitting steel at 25, 50, 75, 100 yards. Help them sight the gun. We are getting shooters that will come back. Come back to shoot again without destroying the land.
 
Preacher, meet the choir.

The folks who make the mess either aren't here, or won't admit who they are. I suspect the former. Those who leave messes at a range are generally not the type to read a forum post condemning it.

Good reminder nonetheless.
 
People are pigs, well, some people, and it will never change. :(

I like to shoot baseballs. Put em at the base of the berm and make em jump up and roll back down. Nice reactive targets. Try hittin' em on the way back down. :D

On the occasion when I forget my paper targets :banghead: I will pull ammo boxes etc from the trash, shoot em up, and then redeposit the remains. :)
 
I love shooting all the crap I can find. It's funner than punching paper. OTOH, my dad taught me that any time I go camping, hiking, hunting, fishing, or shooting: "leave the area better than when you arrived"

I've done more than one cleanup project on public grounds, but personally I'm thinking setting up cameras and turning in those who leave crap behind would be a better way to go about it.
 
I am a recovered litterer. I was raised with the idea that, there are places you should leave clean, and other places that are already dirty, so it doesn't matter. When I went shooting with some other guys who cleaned up after themselves, I felt guilty. I realized that it is not that difficult to take a garbage bag and recover what you can.

See, if it really was possible to go someplace where you could dump stuff, and no one else would ever go out there, I don't think we would be having this conversation. But it isn't. There is no such thing as a 'shooters only' area where we don't have to worry about offending outsiders. Every piece of litter we leave behind is something for the antis to complain about.
 
It's got to be +20 years ago, but some one on the internet must have a picture.

There used to be a big set of "casting blocks" into which you poured mud.

It created balls when the mud dried, and the pieces could just be left on the range.

This is one reason I shoot beer cans. At the end of the session, I gather them up in a bag and dump them into a recycling bin.
 
There used to be a big set of "casting blocks" into which you poured mud.

It created balls when the mud dried, and the pieces could just be left on the range.
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Boy, if you wanted a reaction when you hit a target I'd bet those would work great. And no clean up needed.
 
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