Is there anything wrong with GLOCK 22?

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Who knows about the 9mm vs .40 popularity contest in the country. Most people who are into shooting autos probably have both cals.

The 9 has been around for ever so it makes sense that there are alot of people out there still shooting the 9.

The .40 has been around for about 20 years now and really created for LEOs. That has worked out pretty well because if an agency isn't using the .40 they will be seen as behind the times. (I know all state LEOs in CA carry a .40)

Anyhow the reason why there are so many G22's for sale is simply because there are so many out there. I would wager that in the US Glock sells more G22s than any other model due to all the LEO buying them and then everyone else buying them because thats what LEOs use.
 
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REAPER4206969
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Source?

Call any major ammo manufacture and they will tell you .40 accounts for around half of their centerfire pistol cartridge sales.

So.........you don't actually have a source?

I'll just call WalMart.:D

Since Reaper didn't have a source for his claim I did contact a couple and have received one response so far:

ATK (manufacturer of Speer, CCI, Federal & Fusion brands)

-----Original Message-----
From: Prodserv @ ATK
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:24 PM
To: dogtowntom
Subject: RE: Federal Premium - Ask the Expert Form

Greetings,

Our number one pistol cartridge for commercial sales is 9mm.

Thank you
 
You got me with Speer. They lost the FBI contract for .40 in 2007 and gained the French police contract in 2009 for 9x19. They also have the NYPD contract for 9mm and many other PD's that use the 9mm issue GoldDots or Hydra-Shoks.

6/22/2009

Lewiston, ID: A quarter-million French police officers will be supplied with Speer Gold Dot 9 mm ammunition manufactured at ATK's Lewiston site for their pistols.
 
You're probably seeing police trade ins. I think the Glock 22 is probably the most ubiquitous police firearm in the USA, so therefore there are a ton of them on the secondary market.
 
I'm selling police trade-in Glock 22's for #399.88; as long as they last, as
that's $100 off the retail price of a new one. These came courtesy of the
Milwaukee County (WI) Sheriffs Office; come in a cardboard box with 2x
standard capacity magazines~! ;) :D

FWIW: All have been used for training; some are in better shape than
other's.
 
REAPER4206969 said:
Type "Glock" into Google search and hit the space bar and see what automatically fills in.

In this order:

26, 22, 19, 17, talk, 23, 34, pistols, 18, 21

Looks like 9mm wins the Google test
 
You need to clear cookies and other tracking stuff first. If you do that, you get
Glock 19
Glock 17
Glock 23
Glock 22
etc.
Not sure that is really indicative of anything, though the Glock 19 is probably the most popular Glock on the commercial market.

Trade in Glock 22s with night sights can be had for $315 bucks. If they were Glock 17s or 19s, I would have ordered a few. I've inquired at the LGS, and used Glock 19s are easily the fastest movers.
 
so 9mm is better than 40? that's why 40 Glocks are flooding the street? Police trading in their glock 40 for glock 9s?
 
Those who are in the know dont bother to argue this. It is a mute point. Your claims fall on deaf ears.
 
Apparently no one remembers all the Glock 17 & 19 LE trade ins several years ago.

I'm sure three or four years from now someone will make the claim that the .45GAP is the most popular handgun cartridge in the US because PD's all over the country use it.:uhoh::evil:
 
so 9mm is better than 40? that's why 40 Glocks are flooding the street? Police trading in their glock 40 for glock 9s?

Without delving into an endless debate on ballistics, wound data, hyperion warp technology, black magic, reloading data 1900 thru 2010, thrown bones or any of the various other methods in which people defend which caliber is "best" the short and simple answer to your question is really just "no". Judging which caliber is best based on what the cops or the military buy is like judging which brand of mustard is best by tracking what Burger King uses. It just isn't as simple as saying this one is superior to that one.

For example, Police and Sheriff departments buy their guns in lots, and often times what they choose is influenced heavily by what they have to pay, hence the occasional reference in this thread to the .45GAP which is a pretty unsuccessful commercial cartridge by any measure. Glock, having invested a ton of money in developing that cartridge, offers pretty hefty discounts to police departments to buy those guns. Since the .45GAP is not, in and of itself, a bad round, some departments opted to select it because they could save considerable money by doing so. Larger departments, who obviously order larger lots of firearms when doing mass purchases, often have the ability to be more selective in their caliber choice because they are getting volume discounts. Keep in mind that plenty of departments are perfectly content with the good ol' .45ACP round and aren't going to change that come hell or high water. Militarily, the 9mm is the standard NATO handgun round. Since we are a member of NATO, we shoot what everyone else shoots, and that's about the long and short of that.

In the end, what you have is a slew of cartridges that all do similar things in similar ways, and while ballistics data tells one tale, it isn't the end all be all of caliber selection. The most common "fighting" calibers of today's world are the 9mm, the .40S&W and the .45ACP. There are others that are on the fringe, such as the .45GAP, the .357SIG and even the 10mm. Commercial viability aside, none of these cartridges is inherently good or bad, best or worst. 10mm fans are notorious for their zealous defense of that caliber, while the majority of people dislike it on account of it's purported recoil (which, incidentally, was the whole reason the .40 was developed anyway). Is it better or worse than a 9mm? In some ways yes, because it is simply a more powerful cartridge. On the other hand, it's harder to find ammo for, it does have a stronger recoil, and not everyone makes a pistol for it (though Glock does!). Because of those reasons, it is not an incorrect statement to say that it is not the ideal cartridge. On the other hand, the 9mm, while being the least powerful of all the major fighting calibers, is many people choice (to include mine) because it is soft shooting and it has a wide selection of bullet and load choices. With proper bullet selection, the 9mm is a perfectly good defensive round, with poor bullet selection not so much.

As far as the number of .40's available in your area, it's probably a Police trade in. They got new guns, and rather than just destroy the old ones, they are sold to the public at a discount over new models. Since departments are often standardized, you will of course see a pretty large number of one particular model on the market. If your department happened to have carried Glock 19's, that would be what you see on the market in droves. It doesn't mean a thing, good or bad, what caliber it is. Police trade-ins are just that and the sudden appearance of a particular caliber (or the adoption of a new one) has absolutely zero bearing on whether or not that caliber is better or worse than some other caliber.
 
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