Is this for real?

[hso]

I think they can be more practical for HD than a normal shotgun in some situations.

The respected consensus, and the endless LE departments, disagree.

BUT the simple fact is that there are lime green VW Beetles with little flower vases and lifted F250s with smoke stack "mufflers" and low riders because people like the way they look so there's no difference in the firearms community.

 

[Theohazard]

I think they can be more practical for HD than a normal shotgun in some situations.

The respected consensus, and the endless LE departments, disagree.

Notice I said they can be; of course they're usually not a better choice. What I meant was that -- in certain situations -- their small size can be pretty useful.

 

[Theohazard]

While the tax is $5 to transfer an AOW on a form 4, the tax to make an AOW (form 1) is still $200. If you have a SOT assemble the AOW and engrave it, it can be transferred for $5, but there will be the cost for the SOT's services.

I'm aware of that. But this AOW was originally manufactured as an AOW on a Form 2, there were no Form 1s involved and a Class 2 SOT didn't need to assemble it after the fact. So it's just a $5 tax stamp.

 

[scramasax]

In a world far away I had an 870 Remington issued with a grip like this with a 14" barrel. It is a very valid tool for close in "shot stops". Nothing new here just rehashing and older concept. As to why you might want one the cool factor and snake gun come to mind.

This grip angle is also much better than the pistol grip than most people use on large bore firearms.

 

[Jlr2267]

I have a similar SG, but with a 20" barrel and full length tube. Has the same grip and is comfortable to shoot anything up to 3" slugs.

I guess LemmyCaution wouldn't speak to me

 

[Lman57]

I owned a Mossberg "Cruiser" about 20 years ago was offered twice what I paid for it so I sold it. Mine had a pistol grip no stock.

 

[pjeski]

I'm aware of that. But this AOW was originally manufactured as an AOW on a Form 2, there were no Form 1s involved and a Class 2 SOT didn't need to assemble it after the fact. So it's just a $5 tax stamp.

Ah. I had trouble following your post.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

For what is something like that intended? Unexpectedly gut-shooting your daughter's boyfriend when he arrives at the door to take her to the prom? I'm having a hard time imagining a legitimate self-defense situation for which this is the ideal weapon.

Mike

 

[BADUNAME71]

half a world away

in 1969 I could have used one of those..and with that bunch living next door to us now, I might need one now.
If the wrong guy comes barreling thru your door it won't be debatable as to why anyone would need that

 

[waterhouse]

I had an 870 that I bought primarily for home defense. But the darn thing was long; way too long. A normal-sized stock combined with an 18" barrel was just too long for anything but stationary bedroom defense, and I have an AR-15 for that.

You are certainly free to buy whatever you want, but I just wanted to point out that you don't have to shoulder a regular shotgun to shoot it:


This method allows the shotgun to be "shorter" when you need it to be, and your arm clamping down on the stock helps reduce felt recoil vs. a pistol grip only. It also easily transitions to a regular shouldered shotgun which is much easier to shoot.

As for breaching, in the military where you have to carry your gear on your back and a stock would get in the way, I see a use for a PGO breaching shotgun. For law enforcement I much prefer a combination stock with a full stock and a pistol grip. Generally if you are shotgun breaching a door it is due to active violence; the pistol grip allows support at the high downward angle for breaching and the stock allows the shotgun to be used like a shotgun for whatever is on the other side of the door.