Is this safe?? Planes flying in the background at a range..

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I shoot trap there, summer and winter leagues. No worries about hitting the planes.

Like Matt said, you have to keep an eye out at Shiocton, though. I've been out there a few times where pilots have buzzed the range within spitting distance. Usually we just wave and continue on once they've cleared the area.
 
That's nothing. One of our local trap ranges in Vandalia butts up against the airport.

I presume you are talking about the old site for the Grand American? A trap line about half a mile to a mile long, and maybe 700 yards from the taxiway at Dayton airport? that place always freaked me out.
 
Different aspect of this...

I was flying into Hilton Head one night, and while coming over Parris Island I inadvertently found their target range. We didn't get hit with anything, but had a pretty cool show. Flood lights came on at the firing line, then lots of tracer fire going downrange for less than a minute. Lights off and ceasefire. It was VERY cool to see! I happened to be looking in the right place to see it start to finish. I didn't notice anything ricocheting but we were around 3 to 5000 ft.

Check the history of the .50 BMG. Pretty much every American aircraft used it in WWII out of wing or nose mounted Browning .50 machine guns. The British relied on Browning .303s supplemented with 20mm cannons.
 
Sometimes checking a map is your best choice to make these decisions. After looking at googleearth I noted a couple of things.

First it is almost 3 miles to the airport.
Second your range does not face the airport.

Pretty easy to see that there is no conflict from this picture.

Big sky, little bullet....................






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Unless you are shooting 50 bmg or 20 mm planes are safe

Not to be the fun police but keep in mind anti's can read this board too. There is NO WAY you could hit that plane with a .50 BMG, not even if you had the full-auto quadmount setup. It is too far away. 20mm would have a tiny remote chance but we're talking 1 in a million, maybe, tops. (And of course, 20mm is a "destructive device" anyway.)
 
I think I was a bigger threat to the planes last weekend while I was playing golf on a course next to the airport! :D
 
Different aspect of this...

I was flying into Hilton Head one night, and while coming over Parris Island I inadvertently found their target range. We didn't get hit with anything, but had a pretty cool show. Flood lights came on at the firing line, then lots of tracer fire going downrange for less than a minute. Lights off and ceasefire. It was VERY cool to see! I happened to be looking in the right place to see it start to finish. I didn't notice anything ricocheting but we were around 3 to 5000 ft.

Check the history of the .50 BMG. Pretty much every American aircraft used it in WWII out of wing or nose mounted Browning .50 machine guns. The British relied on Browning .303s supplemented with 20mm cannons.
Ten Driver was that in the ATR or the Dash? Used to drive the dash in and out of hilton head myself. Lots of fun things to see over the carolina's at night from the front office!
 
You'd need a surface to air missile to have any chance.

That thing is WAY further than 1000 yards, and WAY higher than 1000 ft. The runway it lands on is probably longer than 1000 yards.
 
Little off topic, but 45° isn't optimal, the optimal angle varies due to the BC, but is always less than 45°.
Yup. For most rounds, maximum range occurs around 30° elevation. That's because gravity exerts far less force on rifle and pistol bullets than aerodynamic drag does, so drag plays the dominant role. On the moon, you'd get max range at 45°, though.
 
For most rounds, maximum range occurs around 30° elevation. That's because gravity exerts far less force on rifle and pistol bullets than aerodynamic drag does, so drag plays the dominant role. On the moon, you'd get max range at 45°, though.
Yep, with high BCs (such as long boat tailed spitzers) at a lower angle, and poor BCs (like round lead balls) at a greater angle of departure. Average rifle bullet is about 30-35°.

:)
 
Check the history of the .50 BMG. Pretty much every American aircraft used it in WWII out of wing or nose mounted Browning .50 machine guns. The British relied on Browning .303s supplemented with 20mm cannons.

Either 8 or 12 .303 Browning machine-guns on the RAF (non-cannon armed) planes, and fire was still considered wasted outside of 500m or so.
 
The odds of you hitting a plane especially a jet moving 500-750 mph is slim to none. We had a big discussion about this at the range I frequent the other day. We are not too many miles from RAFB outside of San Antonio Texas. Last Thursday about 5:30 I looked up and saw Airforce 1 flying over the range with several fighters in tow at about the distance of the plane in your pic. Pretty sure it was the VP because he was at BAMC the day before. That was something new to see aside from the fighters they are always flying over the range.
Even with an accidental shot; by the time the bullet got to the plane there would be such a loss of velocity it probably would be pretty harmless.
 
This has also been posted on the ar15 general forum where it has turned into a somewhat epic post.

:scrutiny:
 
Rambo doesn't need a machine gun to down a plane, he can do it with his bare hands.
You're thinking of Chuck Norris, who is of course superior to Sylvester Stallone.:D

Chuck Norris while at the firing range missed his target. Once... Out of fear, the bullet did two 180 degree turns and impacted the bullseye of the target as not to anger Mr. Norris.:cool:
 
We get hang gliders hanging around downrange from out 600 yard rifle matches. Early in the morning when there is no wind. Maybe 500-1000 yards behind the berm. Not up very high. Port Malabar, FLA.
 
I was visiting a job-site in Obetz (Columbus, Ohio) when then President Bush "W" was landing very close nearby. Two secret service men came on site, asked us to stop working and clear the scaffold just while the helicopter was overhead. when it came in, it was very low and landed nearby.

Kind of neat, not sure what authority there was to have us do that, but there was no reason to argue. We would have all just watched anyway! The wash kicked up the dust on the site and the 2 secret service guys got a good dusting.....was funny.:cool:
 
I grew up in N Louisiana, Ouachita parish. We had an old army air corp range at the local airport,that was on off affair for years until the sheriffs dept took it over back about 1965. They gradually made it into a first class range, max distance 100 yards and eventally a special area with turning targets ect for law enforcement training, otherwise everything else was open to the public.

I frequented it often while in college there, and for years afterward while home on leave from the USAF. Sometimes in the mid nineties, the built a concrete block wall( I later found out was filled with fine gravel) with little windows in front of benches. You sat at bench and shot through the window. The reason was that the FAA had decreed it, after having been in existance since the late 1930's, I think, or at least early 40's as a WWII training base, that someone might shoot an aircraft either landing or taking off, as they passed right behind the berm which was rather tall. In all those years there has never been such an incident. In 1999 there was a strong wind storm that blew the concrete block wall down. I had taken my father out to shoot his rifle and he was not allowed to do so because of FAA requirements imposed at the time.

Short story was the Feds got so restrictive, they closed the range and built a much nicer range across town, much closer to my parents house which makes it a lot more convenient for me. The bad part is they brought along some of the ideas about only shooting rifles from a bench along, so thats the same.
 
obama's helos flew over our range while we were hot! The helos were over our range fan in the impact area...don't think anyone thought to yell "cease fire"

Fire for effect, baby!

We get hang gliders hanging around downrange from out 600 yard rifle matches. Early in the morning when there is no wind. Maybe 500-1000 yards behind the berm. Not up very high. Port Malabar, FLA.

Pelicans...hand gliders...same thing! Well, they loooook the same through open sights! lol
 
That is nothing man. Municipal Airport runway is ~1 mile away from my range. Cesnas fly literally right over my head at the range, less than 1000 ft above ground.
 
20 mm

Here is a 20 mm mounted in the back of the pick-up, hmm he got some angle for AA, but mostly to get rid of the tail i presume :scrutiny:

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