Is this where traffic cameras are headed?

[mrmeval]

*sigh*

If you're happy and you know it clank your chains!
If you're happy and you know it then your *** will surely show it.
If you're happy and you know it clank your chains!!

 

[Jammer Six]

I don't want you on my roads, or on roads with my family members.

You and I are going to get along just fine, Old Dog.

As for the sprout, most of them don't survive long, so don't worry. He won't be out there long, without a serious change in attitude.

 

[mack]

Oh give me a police state please
Oh give me a police state please

I so scared of freedom
And those who might abuse it
Oh give me a police state please


Better be ready to hire the police police so they can start ticketing and arresting those police officers who are having their coffee, responding to calls on their radios and phones, running info on their computers

Oh my gosh, what about those truckers on their cb radios. Hey let's not forget those people changing the radio station, or tape, or DVD, or i-pod tunes. Don't forget those high capacity satellite radios.

Oh, and of course talking to another passenger - that's right out - studies have shown that talking to another person in the car is as distracting as using a cell phone. Make people wear gags over their mouths in the car, kids should probably have their hands and feet restrained too.

And what about drive thru’s - I mean handing food out the window to a person in a vehicle with the motor running!

Let's get real people - driving a private vehicle is just too dangerous - we need only public transportation driven by professional drivers - no more private autos. No more amateurs at the wheels of these high speed death machines. Just think - no more drunk drivers - no more distracted drivers - no more speeders - plenty of room on the roads and no more traffic jams - no more drive by shootings - no more high speed pursuits - less environmental damage - no more oil shortage - why me could give everyone an ID card they had to use to get on public transportation - then we could track everybody’s movements. Come on people there is no right to private transportation - the time has come - at last we will be safe - .gov will protect us.

 

[DRZinn]

Why, then, do you think driving skills and spending time on the roads is any different? I say: you are hypocrites. Plain and simple. Here is a great demonstration:

If I can drive to work with a cup of coffee in one hand and the stick-shift in the other and not hit anyone, get the **** out of my business.

Where is the hypocrisy? Did I call for someone to levy a fine against you when you've harmed no-one?

So, y'all are perfect, then? Just don't come around preaching practicing your shooting skills and safe range practices ... The four rules? Shucks, if you're good enough to drive through stoplights or stop signs ... just 'cause you don't think you don't see anyone coming ... you don't need any "four rules" and don't have to worry about the possibility of anything bad happening to you on the roads or highways, because, you know, you see everything, and you're perfect ...

Well, I never mentioned running red lights or stop signs. But, since you brought it up, yes. If I can clearly see that there is no cross traffic, why should I sit and wait in front of a light, at four in the morning?

And it really is a lot like the four rules. At an informal range, there's no "hot" or "cold." If someone is downrange, you don't shoot. If no-one is downrange, you can shoot. If some idiot sets up a light to tell me when to shoot and when not to shoot, and it's red but there's no-one downrange, then to hell with the idiot who set up the light.

As for the sprout, most of them don't survive long, so don't worry. He won't be out there long, without a serious change in attitude.

What "attitude" would that be? That I should be allowed to go about my business unmolested as long as I don't harm anyone else? If that's what you mean, then I think I and my attitude are in good company.

Perhaps you'd be happier somewhere else, where you had more "freedom"?

No, you wouldn't be.

Actually, that's exactly what would make me happier.

Natch.

 

[gunsmith]

there is a country for people who love cameras and rules

You can move to England, lots of cameras, lots of rules, lots of tickets.
Move to your socialist workers paradise and be safe.

 

[roo_ster]

Red light cameras are loved by the tax-spenders and the ignorant*. Why? Because they do not improve safety, they slightly worsen it by trading T-bone collisions for somewhat more rear collisions.

A few miles north of me in Plano, Texas used to have the #1 most dangerous intersection (Preston Road/Parker Road) in the nation. Red light cameras were tried with no effect. They finally brought out a civil/traffic engineer to work the issue and brought the number of accidents down significantly. Imagine that, putting a little thought into the issue rather than throwing the latest technological fad at it and hoping for the best.


* I am being charitable by assuming that red-light boosters are not malevolent by either desiring a more dangerous intersection or desiring to see others fined for no good reason.

 

[English_Nobility]

Just as I have said in the past - what people like mrmeval, Shermacman & GunSmith should realise before they go bad mouthing their countries only true allied friend,
[which incidentally sends soldiers to their deaths fighting for an American foreign policy cause] is that there own country may perhaps need its own house sorting and putting in order to THEIR standards before they HAVE THE RIGHT to bad mouth others.


I mean how can you sit there and post that kind of drivel about England not being a democracy because we choose speed cameras and CCTV instead of guns, when in your own country, just taking one example of the top of my head, you cant even buy let alone use a radio scanner capable of receiving police frequencies.

Were is my country UK we can buy sell and use such scanners whenever we choose, legally

If you want to own a scanner capable of those frequencies within the states, the only way you can do it is illegally via illegally importing one from the UK.

Another example which is fairly obvious, is your leader blatantly ignoring law and giving your countries intelligence agencies the free will to ignore your constitution and spy on it's citizens without consulting an authority within the law of the land that is independently servile to the people.

LOL

And your calling my country un democratic? think again please.

Just because we choose CCTV instead of guns, doesn't mean were a country governed by a police state were the citizens have no say so.

Last time I checked my country elects its leaders, and we can un elect them just as fast.

English_Nobility

PS-- Yes of course the nick is a piss take heh

 

[Lucky]

Once you lose all your guns, then you really do have no say. What are your options; hope to embarass corrupt politicians with protests? Yea that's been working real well, for the 4.5 minutes before tear gas ignites or anarchists (possibly agent provocateurs) start destroying private property. Oh, and if you go limp then it takes 4 people to drag you away, instead of just 1 or 2. Power to the people indeed!

Lol, no offence, but once you give up guns you will not get them back, barring something near-miraculous. It's as simple as that. No amount of protesting or reasoning or petitioning will get your guns back. Posession is 9/10 of the law.

And as for embracing universal public monitoring, you can enjoy that, but I don't envy you. It seems like illegal search to me, but hey, I'm sure the Brits I've talked to who would never want to live in their homeland again, due to the creepy constant surveillance (and the culture entailed) are just a minority.

I mean, who is to say if the KGB was a good thing or a bad one? Sure, my mom told me scary stories of how Russians couldn't talk freely over their dinner tables, because someone could be listening. And how too many people couldn't congregate on a street corner or they'd be broken up. But maybe those are good things, for the public safety. Who cares if the gov't makes it law that they have to be able to see you inside your vehicle at all times, and record you and your movements? That's hardly inconvenient, if they do it right you might not even notice they're doing it.

Sounds like a small sacrifice indeed! Good luck with that! When your friends or relatives start disappearing after voicing unpopular opinions, you might not even miss them, if it's done right. Dirty enemies of the public good.

Ta!

 

[K-Romulus]

wrong -wrong -wrong

Nice try, new guy, but wrong . . . try something else.

in your own country, just taking one example of the top of my head, you cant even buy let alone use a radio scanner capable of receiving police frequencies.

Were is my country UK we can buy sell and use such scanners whenever we choose, legally

If you want to own a scanner capable of those frequencies within the states, the only way you can do it is illegally via illegally importing one from the UK.

http://www.radioshack.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2032072&cp=2032052

Me, I'm just waiting for the inevitable next step that mandates CCTV recorders in each UK home, in the name of stopping "domestic violence."

 

[Creeping Incrementalism]

Just because we choose CCTV instead of guns, doesn't mean were a country governed by a police state were the citizens have no say so.

Someone get a can of troll-be-gone.

And anyway, regarding the effectiveness of CCTV vs. guns, England's violent crime rate is about twice as high as America's.

 

[Cellar Dweller]

Longer yellow lights, followed by the ENTIRE intersection being red for 5-10 sec. would virtually eliminate t-bone and rear-end collisions caused by the "yellow runners." This gives the safety benefit at no apparent cost to anyone except:

The statists and busybodies object 'cause they can't monitor/control other people's behavior.

The revenuers object 'cause there's no money in it, no contracts to "reward" the right people.

Is it really about SAFETY or is it about money and control? I just posted a solution that works, so give me a pro-camera argument that isn't money-grubbing or JBT'd. Put up or shut up.

 

[Art Eatman]

Well, this degenerated into thread-be-gone, didn't it?

And on a Sunday, too!

I had more fun, today. Watched the Nascar race from Las Vegas, and then the road-course racers at Laguna Seca. And then I closed a thread!

Art