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Is Winchester White Box Reliable Ammo?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by CmdrSlander, Jun 16, 2012.

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  1. CmdrSlander

    CmdrSlander Member

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    Because my RIA M1911 GI has been having a lot of malfunctions but I have only ever shot WWB through it (200 rounds at present). I am hoping this ammo is just unreliable and that the gun will perform better with a different brand. However, if WWB is decent ammo then something is wrong with my gun. With my current schedule I can only make it to the range every couple months so I cannot simply go get some different ammo and test it out (at least not for some time).

    Edit: This is the 9mm Version of the gun.
     
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  2. Slamfire

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    I have no doubt that Winchester factory ammunition is reliable.

    Just what sort of issues are you having? Why do you believe the ammunition is at fault?
     
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    Why do I believe the ammo is the problem? I don't necessarily think it is, I just want to eliminate that variable.

    What kind of problems? Failure to feed, failure to eject, failure to fully cycle.
     
  4. Sergei Mosin

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    I shoot a lot of 9mm and .45 ACP WWB with no problems. Are you running FMJ or JHP ammo? Some guns don't like JHPs, especially when new.
     
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    Never had a problem with WWB in either 9mm or .45ACP.
     
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    I suspect the ammo because it looks like fairly dirty ammo and because a Kimber I shot a while back was fairly reliable with PMC .45 Auto but disgraceful with WWB.
     
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    I have never had an issue with wwb. Always found it to be a little on the dirty side though.
     
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    I have not had a problem with WWB but have heard of those that have. I also know that Bruce Gray of Grayguns will not guarantee the functionality of pistols he works on with WWB.

    I however have not bought any WWB within the last three years so I don't know if anything has changed since then or not with the quality of WWB.

    New pistols can be picky with the ammo they use epsecially during the first 500 rounds so it may very well be ammo related.

    I would suggest that you try some Speer Lawman, Federal American Eagle, or Winchester 124 gr NATO loads.

    If you use Winchester 124 GR NATO loads and you still have a problem I would say it is pistol/magazine related.

    http://www.sgammo.com/product/winch...inchester-ranger-124-grain-fmj-p-ra9124n-ammo


    I am assuming you cleaned and properly lubed your new pistol before firing it including the frame rails and barrel exterior??
     
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    I have shot thousands and thousands of rounds of it and can't remember ever having a failure.
     
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    Yes, I fully disassembled the pistol and cleaned and lubricated all surfaces. I did this prior to firing and I do this after every range trip. (a grand total of two with this gun).
     
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    There are real M1911 experts here, but my first reaction to failure to feed and failure to eject is bad magazines and something off with the extractor/ejector.

    Failure to fully cycle, that is unusual.
     
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    The extractors on these guns are known to fail and the magazine is known to be of low quality. I will try a new mag and a different brand of ammo next time around.
     
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    I have used WWB in my PM9,LCP, Diamondback 380, and Ruger Service Six without issue.
    I consider it good paractice ammo.
    Zero failures or feeds.
     
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    It ran perfect through my new sti spartan today. All hollow points. That and the ria you have use the same frame.
     
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    My FEG did not like WWB. It was too dirty and filled up the extractor with gunk. A swipe of the nylon brush every 50 rounds kept it going. No issues with other brands.
     
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    My Regent R100 handles WWB just fine, even through the POS ACT-mag that it came with.

    "Failure to fully cycle" meaning short-stroking? Because failure to go into battery is the same thing as a failure to feed.
     
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    What is a FEG?
     
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    I think it is an FTF (so no "failure to fully cycle") I was too annoyed at the time to be really clinical about determining the malfunctions.
     
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    I have a 9mm RIA GI. It doesn't like the hornady zombie ammo, but I have successfully used no less that 500 rounds of wwb with no problems. I have also used remington, American eagle and pmc, without issue.

    Hollow points I have had issued with. Have not tried steel.
     
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    FEG P9R, it is a doublestack 9mm that outwardly resembles a high power, but internally is much closer to a S&W model 59. My first duty size center fire pistol.
     
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    Lotsa WWB through by Beretta 92FS and the Springfield Armory Mil-Spec, no ammo issues; good as Remington UMC as far as reliability goes. Or premium defense ammo, really. Always goes bang and always cycles my bone-stock guns (and my buddy's) just fine.

    Packaging is a different story; my buddy and I have had a few boxes that had the flap glue dripping into the box interior and leaving pieces of solidified semi-adhered gunk on the rounds. That's shoddy machine set-up!

    But with the ammo? Never for me in the 92, the SA or in my friend's 226.
     
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    On a broader use, I would say 90% of what I use in my P226, M&P, and 5906 is WWB since Wally world sells it $21/100 rounds.
     
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    I never had an issue with WW white box 9mm.

    What kind of malfunctions are you having?
     
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    FTEs and FTFs.

    I am going to try lubricating the gun again immediately before heading to the range, as it was fairly reliable for the first 100 rounds fired and those were fired shortly after I had received, cleaned and lubricated the firearm, while the next 100 rounds were horribly unreliable and were fired a month after I had last cleaned and lubricated the firearm (after the first range trip).
     
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