Is wolf really that bad?

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combloc is the key word here. Use Russian ammo in Russian guns. I wouldn't shoot Wolf 7.62x39 in a Mini-30, but I would shoot Wolf 5.56 in a AK-style rifle chambered for it.

It's dirty, steel-cased, polymer coated. Do what you want, maybe it will work, maybe it won't. I would NOT trust my life to it, I would NOT run a gun still dirty from it to save my life, and I will NEVER run it in my heirloom 30-carbine.
 
ok, so here's my .02 worth

Wolf steel cased 9mm ammo did not work well for me after the first box. I think the steel cases dont expand the same or some such, so the chamber got really dirty and had a few problems; jamming and fail to eject mainly. but I concede that it probably depends on the pistol being used. Mine was a Llama 1911 copy in 9mm. it HATED wolf.
but I have had great luck with wolf 7.62x39 in sks, ak, and an AR variant in that calibur.

two things were always the same though; very dirty stuff, 2x the cleaning required on the Llama 9mm than any other ammo, and noticeably (sp) more in other cal. than winchester or rem. ammo.
and not horribly accurate stuff, but if you just want the cheapest ammo to let off a couple hundred rounds of, it has worked ok for me, in rifles.
 
I used 100 rounds of Wolf .380 to break in my KT P3AT. I had one FTE. As others have said, this ammo is quite dirty. Be prepared to strip and clean your gun if you use this stuff. I prefer Georgia Arms for range ammo. It's available online or at local gun shows.
 
Wolf is OK. It will tend to dirty and gunk up your gun faster than quality ammo. It will probably be a little less consistent as well. Some also say the steel casing can be rough on extractors.

My experience is that it works fine in Com-bloc guns because they were made to fire that type of ammo and their extractors are pretty hard and the tolerances tend to be looser so they function when dirty.
 
Wolf is all I fire in the AR, besides the occasional LC. I've also shot it in the 45 but I like to use Blaser brass in handguns. But wolf 223 and 7.62X39 is good stuff, a little bit dirty but thats wgat hoppes and rags are for
 
My russian SKS loves wolf ammo, LOVES IT! It shoots wolf better than every commercial ammo I've put through it, Hell, it doesn't even shoot handloads as well as it shoots wolf. Russian guns love russian ammo...

put 1000 rounds of wolf 223 through my AR, and while I didn't have any failures, it wasn't very accurate.

I have two complaints about wolf ammo...
1 - it's dirty as hell
2 - it stinks like the south end of a north bound hog
 
Has anyone tried Wolf in a P-01? I know they can have issues with aluminum cases. You would think CZ's would shoot combloc ammo, but read that the 75 was actually designed for brass cased ammunition and not for the commbloc stuff they had.
 
Only problem i ever had with wolf 9mm is the red laqucer or what ever it is that surrounds the primer gets inside of the gun and accumulates and is a pain to get off but not impossible. Same thing with the 7.62x39 inside of an AK.
 
Wolf ammo

When I bought my 5.56 Bushmaster last year, there was a flier in the box which said they (Bushmaster) recommend NOT using the following ammo:
CCI Blazer 9mm aluminum cased in blowback operation guns
olympic 9mm ammo made in Greece
American Brand 9mm Ammo
Bushmaster further states they have had no problems with:
PMC/Speer/Remington/Winchester/Wolf/Sellier & Bellot/ American Eagle or M.E.N.(German manufacture)
 
Wolf ammo cases have a lacquer on it to make it waterproof. In rifle calibers (especially the .223) if you shoot alot or fast, the chamber gets hot enough to start melting the lacquer. This causes all sorts of feeding, extraction and ejection problems. Pistols don't usually get as hot so the problem is not as prevalent.
I have heard that they do offer some ammo without the steel cases and without the lacquer waterproofing and this may be more reliable ammo, but I have never seen any or tried it out.
Be that as it may, I've enough experience with Wolf brand ammo that I will not BUY any to shoot through my guns. If some one were to GIVE me a case for free, I might shoot it slowly and let the gun cool off before firing any more.
 
If in doubt...don't use it. My buddy gave me a box of Wolf45acp. I gave it back to him. Several shooters suggested not to use it.
 
The older wolf ammo was lacquer coated that could cause a build-up in the chamber however; all the wolf I find now is polymer coated...should eliminate the fouling issue. I use wolf in my AK, SKS, 1911, and Ruger p95 with no problems.
 
I almost forgot about their brass cased ammo too. Hard to find, but I bought a case of their brass 5.56 ammo. Fired every cartridge with no failures, respectably accurate too. I compared the spent wolf brass to other american made brass, and found wolf cases to be superior in construction too all but lake city brass. two years later and I'm still reloading that wolf brass.
 
It's dirty, steel-cased, polymer coated. Do what you want, maybe it will work, maybe it won't. I would NOT trust my life to it, I would NOT run a gun still dirty from it to save my life, and I will NEVER run it in my heirloom 30-carbine.
no one will trust their life to it even people like me who swear by it for plinking. plinking is plinking, self defense is a serious issue.

my .02 is DO IT, if it dosent work dont buy more. i havent even put my ar together yet (waiting on lower) and i've already begun to load up on their .223. if it dosent work i wont but any more simple as that.
 
Why pay $9/50 for 9mm in steel cases,when you can pay less than $9/50 for brass cased ammo that is reloadable?
JL
 
Why pay $9/50 for 9mm in steel cases,when you can pay less than $9/50 for brass cased ammo that is reloadable?

Where can you get 50 rounds of brass cased 9mm for less than $9.00?
 
With 9mm, no failures with a CZ75D, PT111 or XD9SC.
.223 works flawlessly in my Bushmaster Carbon15.
 
The only issue that I ever had with it was in my Springfield Champion 1911. To be fair, it was the older lacquer-coated cases and, at the time, it was the cheapest ball I could find. That's basically why I bought it, as I needed to break-in the pistol before I used it for a training class.

I started getting FTExtracts after putting 3 or 4 mags full through it quickly. Probably what got it hot enough to start melting the lacquer. Combined with the tight chamber dimensions, it wasn't a good match. FWIW, the rest of it ran fine in my CZ 97B and a GI-spec 1911. Fortunately, I ran into a deal at Natchez on Blazer .45 that was only about 10 bucks a case more, so I didn't have to try using it for the class.

I've put several thousand 7.62x39s through my small assortment of SKSes and Mini-30 with no functional problems. The powder does leave a lot of residue, and the average accuracy is mediocre at best, but for inexpensive plinking and practice it's worked out alright. At least it allows me to conserve what remains of my hoarded Chinese 7.62x39 a bit longer.

Now that the true Mil Surp supplies have pretty much dried-up and their prices are more "competitive" with other generic ball I don't buy as much of it.

The polymer-coated 9x19 runs fine in all three of my pistols and the 9x18 Mak stuff gives very good accuracy from my Bulgie.

The RF Match Target gives nice accuracy, but as I can buy Aguila SV that does just as well or better in my rifles for less than half the price I haven't used more than a brick of it.
 
Academy.
Monarch green box 9mm FMJ 115 grain. $8.79/50. Brass case Prvi Partisan ammo sold under Academy's private label. they've also got steel case 115gr FMJ 9mm for $6.79/50.

Thanks for the info unfortunately, no Academy near me...best I can find around here is about $11.00+/- per 50.
 
Well I think i have decided to order 2 boxes of 50. If it works alright then I will continue to order more for plinking. I will stay away from it as my carry ammo, but If i can plink with it that would be great.
 
I've shot thousands of rounds of Wolf Black Box 180gr .40 S&W out of my CZ-75B SA in IPSC matches with nary a problem.

I'm kinda slow so I usually finish in the middle of the pack but when measuring against just points for hitting the target I'm generally in the top 3 so I'd have to say Wolf is accurate enough too.

That said when shooting steel or for groups I get the occassional flyer. Annoying but usually get no more than 1 or 2 per box so for me that's acceptable.

Wolf stinks too - got an acrid odor to it.

Same results above in 9mm.

Tried .45ACP - didn't like it - not accurate at all - at least not out of my 45's.

In general though given the choice - for inexpensive ammo that always goes bang, is brass cased and reloadable along with being accurate I'd choose S&B over Wolf every time.
 
Of the indoor ranges I go to, one won't allow Wolf at all, one screens for steel in the bullets, and one won't allow 7.62x39 from any brand.

As a result, I don't use any Wolf in handguns. I buy the non-lacquered stuff for my AK and SKS. I have a bunch of lacquered .223 that I'm trying to use up at an outdoor range, and I'll only put brass in my AR after that.
 
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