Israel now arming civilians after Hamas attack

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What happened in Israel is literally nothing in scale compared to what could relatively easily be done here by a hand-full of coordinated attackers. We are ALL on literal life support in the form of the electrical grid due to the inability to produce, preserve, and distribute food without electricity. This is by far the biggest existential threat to the US.

There are a couple of very vulnerable areas, and due to government incompetence, the grid isn't hardened against either. One is and EMP attack via a simple nuclear weapon being detonated a couple hundred miles above the US. This has been studied in detail by the US EMP Commission. The EMP Commission was created by Congress in 2001. The commission is formally known as the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack. The Commission brought together notable scientists and technologists to compile several reports. In 2008, the EMP Commission released the “Critical National Infrastructures Report”. This report describes the likely consequences of a nuclear EMP on civilian infrastructure.

The findings and conclusions of this report to Congress are more scary than any localized event could ever be (except for those few people caught up in the localized event, of course). CLIFF'S NOTES: The result of a strong EMP attack (such as a relatively simple, easy to build but harder to deliver nuclear weapon being exploded 200 miles above the Central US would be 90% of the US population dead within one year. The deaths would be due to the fact that the electrical grid and essentially everything that uses electricity to function (vehicles, refineries, food production and storage, transportation, etc., etc.) will never work again unless/until many of the electrical components are replaced, which is essentially impossible due to the massive number of parts required and the years it'd take for some foreign country to build them. We are all on life support in the form of the electrical grid. Both Obama and Trump recommended that measures be taken to harden the grid against EMP (and also Coronal Mass Ejections from the Sun, another source of the same end result), but the individual electrical power companies don't want to go to the trouble and expense, and the government hasn't mandated it.

Full report: http://www.empcommission.org/docs/A2473-EMP_Commission-7MB.pdf
Executive summary: http://www.empcommission.org/docs/empc_exec_rpt.pdf

Back to the 200 bad guys comment, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) says that there are 30 critical Substations in the US electrical grid, and that if any 9 of them are taken out of commission, the grid could go down for weeks, up to 18 months or more. When the snipers took out the Silicon Valley substation a few years ago, it was believed by some to be a test to see how easily a Substation could be brought down by rifle fire. It was child's play, according to authorities. Just some guys in the surrounding hills with rifles firing on the station for a few minutes.
An EMP Pulse attack is number one on the plan by the Chinese Communists. We just don’t know the date, but it is circled in red on their calendars.
 
No, it won't change perception of guns in the US. If we lived under constant threat of a military invasion from Canada or Mexico, we'd probably have a different outlook. Its important to not overlook that in the US in 2020, it was estimated there's over 400 million arms circulating in private hands.
We are living in a current state of invasion by many thousands of unvetted military age males who our government largely does not track.

If 1% had nefarious intentions and are in sleeper mode, their possible aggressive actions would be every bit as dangerous and devastating as the work of Hamas.
 
Ukraine was doing the same thing right quick. Line up here for your AK or whatever is in these old crates we dug out for you.
 
we are all certainly entitled to our opinions - and border security is definitely a concern, but I do not equate our immigration issues in the US to that of a military invasion. - just one guy's opinion.
 
Israeli politics, like ours, has turned very poisonous and toxic to the point where those in power forgot the first role of government..the protection of its people.
Here is where I have to disagree. I don't want the government protecting me. The police certainly aren't there to protect you. Talk to any cop, they're simply a well paid cleanup and documentation crew.

There have been far too many instances where this credo has led to bad stuff. In fact, its what is leading the charge to take our weapons.

The first role of Government is to respect the constitution and stay out of my liberty.
 
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Here is where I have to disagree. I don't want the government protecting me. The police aren't there to protect you. Talk to any cop, they're simply a well paid cleanup and documentation crew.

There have been far too many instances where this credo has led to bad stuff. In fact, its what is leading the charge to take our weapons.

The first role of Government is to respect the constitution and stay out of my liberty.
I'm not sure Megawatt is saying that we have no responsibility to protect ourselves and should sit around waiting on the police in the event that a criminal attacks us, but rather that GOVERNMENT'S first role is to protect the people and the country. That means securing the borders, punishing criminals, keeping the peace, and applying the law equally to all.

I don't think the politicians have "forgotten" the role of government. I think they've intentionally abandoned it in favor of serving themselves and their shady-if-not-outright-corrupt allies (which in turn serves themselves via the back door). All the bad stuff that's happening to the country is by design of the people who want the result that it's bringing about. For example, they KNOW that the border is essentially non-existent, they KNOW that crime is rife and will continue to get worse if punishment isn't something that criminals fear. They are not stupid. They're corrupt (and IMO, evil monsters in some cases).
 
I'm not sure Megawatt is saying that we have no responsibility to protect ourselves and should sit around waiting on the police in the event that a criminal attacks us, but rather that GOVERNMENT'S first role is to protect the people and the country. That means securing the borders, punishing criminals, keeping the peace, and applying the law equally to all.
I'm down with protecting the country, protecting the people is rather nebulous. I won't go further as I've already had a response deleted and I am trying very hard to respect the boundaries of this place. (Moderators watching this thread, take note, I am trying.) :)
 
we are all certainly entitled to our opinions - and border security is definitely a concern, but I do not equate our immigration issues in the US to that of a military invasion. - just one guy's opinion.
I guess you have not seen the border videos showing hundreds of military-age Chinese males crossing into the United States at a time; they are in top physical condition, military short haircuts, staying coordinated in groups, with large amounts of pocket money.

One has to at least conjecture, that tons of arms and military equipment has been brought into the US through West Coast ports run by Chinese companies overseen by the CCCP, shipped to the vast properties in the U.S. owned by Chinese companies controlled by the CCCP, to be used by the likely multiple divisions of Chinese soldiers that have snuck across the border (maybe 50,000 to 100,000 troops) just waiting for the call from Beijing.

Just saying maybe there might be a problem out there.
 
I guess you have not seen the border videos showing hundreds of military-age Chinese males crossing into the United States at a time; they are in top physical condition, military short haircuts, staying coordinated in groups, with large amounts of pocket money.

One has to at least conjecture, that tons of arms and military equipment has been brought into the US through West Coast ports run by Chinese companies overseen by the CCCP, shipped to the vast properties in the U.S. owned by Chinese companies controlled by the CCCP, to be used by the likely multiple divisions of Chinese soldiers that have snuck across the border (maybe 50,000 to 100,000 troops) just waiting for the call from Beijing.

Just saying maybe there might be a problem out there.
Are you a conspiracy theorist ?
 
we are all certainly entitled to our opinions - and border security is definitely a concern, but I do not equate our immigration issues in the US to that of a military invasion. - just one guy's opinion.
Then you are not paying attention.


A foreign policy expert is sounding the alarm over China-state nationals seeping through the U.S. border at alarming rates.

"There are certain Chinese coming in that are really disturbing," Gatestone Institute senior fellow Gordon Chang said on "Mornings with Maria" Monday. "Packs of Chinese males of military age, unattached to family groups pretending not to speak English. These are probably saboteurs who are coming in on the first day of war with Asia."

 
Any Chinese people with military short hair cuts and plenty of pocket money entering this country aren't the real threats from China. That's too many markers, indicating they're probably there to purposefully attract attention and therefore cause a large wasteful expendature of resources on our part.

Chinese people with not-so-military-short haircuts and little (if any) money would be the ones I'd worry about. If they could be recognized as Chinese in the first place. This country is full of people who couldn't tell the difference between "stereotypical" Mexicans and Hawaiian natives.

Any infiltrators into this country wouldn't need to carry any unusual amounts of money. They could access it here in the states.
 
Are you a conspiracy theorist ?

Keeping this thread on the 2A topic and not only self defense by also the militia reason, the Israelis would have been better off with firearms throughout the communities than what their reality was/is today.

Here in the US, it is not a “conspiracy theory”, it is a fact that we are being invaded by thousands of unvetted foreign men. It is also fact that our government has little tracking on them. It is also fact that if even a fraction of a percent of these people are an trained/organized military force, the havoc they can cause would/could be enormous.

Our government allowing their entry while disarming our citizens is reckless at best and potentially disastrous for our future.
 
I'm down with protecting the country, protecting the people is rather nebulous. I won't go further as I've already had a response deleted and I am trying very hard to respect the boundaries of this place. (Moderators watching this thread, take note, I am trying.) :)
I6turbo pretty much streamlined my thinking. And yes, of coarse, I don't expect government to protect me personally. I too, expect it to protect my liberty..which it has failed to do in epic fashion as of late.

My point is..and its been universally true all through history across all forms of government...it's governments first responsibility to protect its Boarders....which both ours and Isreal has failed to do.
 
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Nothing is going to change the antis in the US until a gun is stuck in their face. I was quite surprised to find that guns are so restricted in Isrial, a county that lives with death on it's door constantly, and literally from all sides. I am also surprised by how many in this country either agree with Hamas or want the Isralies to just stand back and take what has been done to them. I suppose I should not be surprised by about anything as I have been watching the world go to hell in a hand basket for years.
 
An EMP Pulse attack is number one on the plan by the Chinese Communists. We just don’t know the date, but it is circled in red on their calendars.

I guess you have not seen the border videos showing hundreds of military-age Chinese males crossing into the United States at a time; they are in top physical condition, military short haircuts, staying coordinated in groups, with large amounts of pocket money.

One has to at least conjecture, that tons of arms and military equipment has been brought into the US through West Coast ports run by Chinese companies overseen by the CCCP, shipped to the vast properties in the U.S. owned by Chinese companies controlled by the CCCP, to be used by the likely multiple divisions of Chinese soldiers that have snuck across the border (maybe 50,000 to 100,000 troops) just waiting for the call from Beijing.

Just saying maybe there might be a problem out there.

China has always been more interested in money than in becoming a smoking hole in the earths crust, but we can't underestimate them.
 
Nothing is going to change the antis in the US until a gun is stuck in their face. I was quite surprised to find that guns are so restricted in Isrial, a county that lives with death on it's door constantly, and literally from all sides. I am also surprised by how many in this country either agree with Hamas or want the Isralies to just stand back and take what has been done to them. I suppose I should not be surprised by about anything as I have been watching the world go to hell in a hand basket for years.
A gun stuck in their face will only make them double down on their pipe dream of a disarmed society.

Getting shot in the face...well thats a different story. Kinda solves the problem permanently (Note..not advocating violence. Not AT ALL, just pointing out what is obvious to most).

Also, ya..it is absolutely incredible how many morons in the nation who think Israel should negotiate. How do you negotiate with someone who chops the heads off children and puts the video of it on the internet?

We are in big trouble....
 
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