Isubmit The M1 Carbine Is A Super Cqb Rifle.....m1 Carbine Worship, Redux!!!!

[artech]

Jeez, for a second I thought you wrote AN/PAQ-4C laser printer...

Makes about as much sense as some of the other crap hanging off rifles today...

If people spent as much on practice ammo as on uber-tactical accessories, then they might find they don't need the accessories!

Hey, now there's a concept!

arithinkthesu-16makesagoodm1carbinemyselftech

 

[Langenator]

Well, I have yet to see a PAC-4C (or -4B, or -4A) available for sale to the general public. It uses an IR laser, so you have to have NVGs to see it. But being able to shoot in the dark is a hell of an advantage.

 

[1911Ron]

I have to agree that the M-1 Carbine is a good good choice for HD, at Sportsmans Warehouse they have soft point and HP in 30Carbine.

 

[bad LT]

For "extremely" close quarter battle I like a longer bayonet platform

(of course if Wild is offering a group buy at say $20 a carbine I'm in )

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I was issued an M2 carbine as my personal weapon for my first tour Viet Nam as an adviser to 4/48 ARVN Infantry. It got wrapped around a tree.

I would never go into combat with a carbine -- I don't care if Audie Murphy did like it.

 

[Dead]

I would buy one in a heart beat, but it is a BANNDED assualt weapon in my state.... I can buy all the netuered AR's M1A's and AK's that I want though, go figure?

 

[MrAcheson]

Yup. Just put the first 50 rounds through my new AO carbine yesterday. Fun fun fun. I'm a horrible rifleman, but at CQB distances it would be hard to miss.

 

[shermacman]

WildAlaska,
the M1 carbine would be an even better gun, a more tactical QCB, with the ability to feed it special purpose, socom subsonic ammo. This would make it easier for an operator to establish a perimeter around any Terr's sandbox. Needs a little work to accomodate ergonomic features such as lasers and high lumen lights. Especially if you have to Tango with a merc who has set up a bivvy in urban combat.

 

[zougou]

So, what's a good price for one of the new M1s? Are magazines easy to acquire for it?

 

[zougou]

Wow, I killed another thread!

So, does this mean I'm banned from group buys if I ever reach over 300 posts?

 

[Dave R]

This is a great thread that will not die. IIRC, M1 Carbines run around $500 and mags are cheap, and widely available. So what's the best carbine option these days? The IMI newbies? A used GI model?

 

[MrMurphy]

Vern, I know guys who used the original M1 and then the M2 and most agreed the M2 had more reliability problems and the full auto switch should have stayed on the designer's page and never made it to production.... and the 30 round mag design didn't help.


Audie always used the original M1 and 15 rounders, so I guess his experience was different. His was also probably new and not a 2-war vet before he got it.

 

[natedog]

Mr. Humphry, I've read your posts on the M1 Carbine being wrapped around a tree, and am intriguided- was it done with explosives or something?

 

[ddc]

Alright! The next WA group buy! M1 Carbines all around!

Oh my, if only that was possible...

I don't know how many I'd buy but it would be at least two. (and I keep getting these great credit card offers so probably at least three....)

 

[Vern Humphrey]

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Mr. Humphry, I've read your posts on the M1 Carbine being wrapped around a tree, and am intriguided- was it done with explosives or something?
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It was done by swinging the gun by the muzzle, with all the muscle I could put behind it.

All the comments about the M2 being unreliable and the carbines being worn are true. But once I wrapped that POS around a tree, I bummed an M1 off the ARVN, and it was reliable -- and it had been through two wars, too.

The carbine wasn't a weapon that you could rely on -- it wouldn't put a man down. As I say, Audie Murphy was with other Americans, so if he didn't put a German down, one of the men in his platoon could do the job. I was with ARVN -- and couldn't rely on that kind of help.

The M1 is better at putting a man down, and it will shoot through things (the enemy tended to hide, you know.)

 

[Sven]

I love my M1 Carbines!

With 30 rounders and soft points.... mmmmm....

 

[106rr]

Cqb 30 M1

I took a 30 carbine to Louis Awerbucks Carbine/Pistol ll class. It performed perfectly. I used WWB fmj ammo, a loopie scout scope on a forward mount with a stock peep backup. Mine was made by IMI and was sold for $399 on sale at Trader's Sports in San leandro, CA. You might try Kahr for a good shooter. GI models are best but are expensive. The 30 rd mags I had in my collection worked perfectly although they were discolored with surface rust in the wrappers after so many years. They were manufactured in the 70's by FN. These mags are marked AYN on the front in italic type script. The regular 15 rd mags are preferred by most people.
Most of the carbines were AR platform and many failed to function in the dust of California's central valley. The 30 M1 was superb!

 

[Mannlicher]

I have a great deal of respect for the M1 Carbine. I have two USGI carbines, and one old Universal.
I do not think much of the Carbine round for hunting, but for "social work", the carbine and the .30 round are pretty good.

 

[jeff-10]

Damn, my gun dealer has a brand new Kahr M1 Carbine at his shop. All this talk about them is going to make me spend $529 next time I stop by it.

 

[M2 Carbine]

It's a fun plinker

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[zougou]

Who has the best prices on decent magazines? What's a fair price?

TIA

 

[JShirley]

The M1 is an excellent close-quarters tool, and much preferable to virtually all pistols many gun folks claim they would grab in an emergency.

The M1 Carbine is what the M-16 should have been; now, if we could just get one in 6.5x39mm, we'd be set.




John

 

[artherd]

The M1 Carbine is what the M-16 should have been; now, if we could just get one in 6.5x39mm, we'd be set.

It's a cute little gun, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you there

 

[Vern Humphrey]

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The M1 is an excellent close-quarters tool, and much preferable to virtually all pistols many gun folks claim they would grab in an emergency.
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Having seen a man absorb multiple hits from the .30 carbine, and fall to a single .357, I also disagree.

 

[106rr]

M1 carbine

Vern;
Sounds like you had a frustrating experience with the carbine and our RVN allies. I served May67/May68 196thLIB I Corps as a 106 gunner. Were you with a USMC CAC Team or Army?