It's just a friendly neighborhood raping...

[ArmedBear]

It is nice but I wonder what they say when they cannot get their quickly. It seems that I would rather have a gun in my hand rather than a cell phone in hand when the SHTF. I doubt the police chief wiil issue them permits.

They say, "Oh, we thought you said that the guy was gone, so we just came by when we were in the area to take a report." 1.5 hours after the 911 call.

That was in the next neighborhood over from Mission Beach, last year, when a young woman called to report a man in the act of trying to bust her door down. Fortunately, he left. Maybe her dog scared him off.

It wasn't in the papers. These stories get shared at dog parks and coffee shops in San Diego.

What ex-police-chief, now mayor Sanders really meant was, "Holy crap! They actually caught the perps this time!"

...too late to make too much difference. I wonder how many months they'll spend on probation.

 

[Lupinus]

I wouldn't say he has a drinking problem. Maybe a little much? Sure. Bad enough to cut back? Absoloutly if his neighborhood is that bad.

Neighborhoods are not always what they seem. Sometimes neighborhoods that look great are bad, and sometimes one that looks bad are great.

Not just for the sake of the gun but for awarness reason lay off the hooch a bit, and I would reccomend getting him a shotgun. A shotgun is a lot easier to use for newer shooters looking strictly for HD, and I would be willing to bet my life on some 00 buck any day of the week in HD distences. Plus a HD shotgun is likely to be cheaper and in California probably a bit easier to get.

 

[c_yeager]

That being said, I don't think it's right to call him a drunk, or say he has a drinking problem. He's a college guy, and this, while unwise, is not unusual behavior.

It is not unsusual behavior not to own a gun either. In fact owning a gun places a person into a minority, especially at college age. If you want the option of killing a person in your own defense, then you better be willing to make a small sacrifice to limit your chances of having to do so.

I simply will not accept the argument that its OK to shoot someone in your own defense, but it isnt worth giving up drinking for the same end. You are very nearly saying that you would rather kill a man than give up drinking every weekend.

 

[armedpolak]

Sweet Mercyful Jesus!!!
Anyone ran a train through some poor soul in my neighborhood, i don't know what i would do...

and GF wonders why I take the gun to the bathroom with me! armed 24/7, every second of it.

p.s. except at work. stupid policy.

 

[shotgunkevin]

As others have said, guns & alcohol don't mix. I'd say get a half-dozen Louisville sluggers. Man, 5 drunk frat boys with bats scares me, and I carry a gun!

 

[PythonFan]

 

[crazed_ss]

...too late to make too much difference. I wonder how many months they'll spend on probation.

Nah, these dudes are getting some serious time.. possibly life.
Multiple counts of rape, false imprisonment, robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, etc, etc.. They're finished.

They're gonna get the book thrown at them, just like that one guy who assaulted the college girl awhile back. http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20060929-1753-hurdler.html

 

[mike101]

Your friend sounds like a pretty responsible kid (paying his own tuition, rent, etc). You said he was nervous about having a gun with all of the drinking going on, which means he's thinking correctly. Maybe the responsibility of owning a gun, in itself, will cause him to cut back on the drinking. You know him. The rest of us are just speculating.

As I said, my friends and I would drink on the weekends, but we didn't get falling-down drunk. Bad form. When people get REALLY drunk, they can also get sloppy about basic security measures, like locking doors, etc.. It's a matter of degree, I suppose. Talk to him about that.

If I was your friend, I would be more concerned about the safety of my girlfriend, than being able to drink heavily. I still think he should move, if possible.

I DO like the idea of arming everyone with baseball bats, too!

 

[DRMMR02]

Becoming a gun owner is a huge leap in responsibility. I know some(a lot) of college students react to responsibility like vampires to sunlight, but it sounds like he needs to grow up. Boozing it up and partying sure can be fun, but sheeple everywhere tend to only think about fun. I will give him props for admitting beforehand that his drinking will probably be bad news with a gun in the house. Knowing that there are negative consequences of drinking sets him apart from many his age, and shows that there's hope. I would advise that first, gun not even coming into play, he reels in the drinking. That can cause a whole wolrd of problems without guns and the threat of criminals. If he can do that, take him to the range. Talk to him about some Basic Firearms classes he can take. And then talk about what kind of weapon he can use best to defend himself and his loved ones, and what kind of safe or other measure he can put inplace to make sure he, and only he can get it. And while he's sober.


Others have said it. It really comes down to whether or not he's willing to give up some of his fun for the peace of mind of being able to protect lives. He should under no circumstances have a gun if he thinks it might fall into the hands of drunk college kids.

 

[Baba Louie]

DRM and others have hit the nail on the head. College is about learning. Maybe even growing up (a little or a lot... personal choice). Thinking rational thought. Logic. Decisions + Action = Outcome. College life isn't really a dress rehearsal, just a microcosm of future lifestyle (with some kicking up of heels thrown in now and then)

Print out the responses to the thread and send them to your friend for discussion.

Then, for grins, see how & what he decides. Finally, move on, worrying about your own problems in life. Life is short. Some people (friends) who live differently and make interesting life decisions, are worth study but not worth losing sleep over when they choose poorly. (Tho it would be fun to live on the beach in SD and party w/ bikini clad inebriated coed babes once in my life. Oh to be 20-something again... naaah, dream on old man)

 

[History Prof]

College life isn't really a dress rehearsal, just a microcosm of future lifestyle

Hey Baba Louie,
Very profound. Mind if I steal this to use when I intro my classes at the beginning of each semester?

 

[Fred Fuller]

So THR, what advice do you have for my buddy?
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Get him some salt and pepper. He's placed himself on the menu, he might as well supply the condiments too.

If he doesn't want to be food, some lifestyle changes are in order. Or not. It's his life and he can spend it as he wishes, either playing sheep to the wolves or growing some fangs of his own. His call...

lpl/nc

 

[moewadle]

Yes, and it is his decision whether

or not he is going to do something about his problem drinking.

 

[SoCalShooter]

re: librarian

My nunchuks, daggers, dirks , katana's etc are illegal ?

 

[KC&97TA]

I don't suppose anyone in the house is trustworthy enough to take a weekend off and be "on watch" as it were, so there always someone unaltered on site?

They aren't in the Marine Corps, don't think posting a fire watch will work.

I have a buddy that keeps a cross bow... he doesn't like guns, but he can cock and load a bolt into that thing very quickly, although unless multiple attackers are in a line, it's kind of a one shot deal.

I'd get the heck out of the gheto, I'm familiar with the area you're talking about... I take my chances when going places and take my Springer with me (I'm not talking about the dog) rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6... and I'd play the "War Hero", unlike our drunken college kid.

 

[crunker]

Shotgun or carbine, in addition to a pistol. Train well, teach use of the said to girlfriend. Pack Mace or a stungun.

 

[SoCalShooter]

RE: Crossbow

Honestly if a guy shot a crossbow at me I would leave cause seriously what other crazy weapons does he have in his arsenal. This guy definetly needs to move or be bait depends on how much his safety is worth to him cause this type of violent crime is not going to stop in that area because there is not enough of a police presence.

 

[ArmedBear]

Hey Baba Louie,
Very profound. Mind if I steal this to use when I intro my classes at the beginning of each semester?

Problem is, to a college freshman, a life of drunken debauchery seems quite attractive, so the dress rehearsal may not look so good.

 

[Thefabulousfink]

There is no need to post a Fire Watch, or even stay dead sober (if you're not driving). Just one person who takes it easy (1 beer an hour) so that their judgement isn't impaired. This person could make sure everyone leaves the party ok, break up fights, keep out un-invited guests, and make sure that the house is secure after everyone is gone. My roommates and I did this and so did several other houses that regularly threw parties. It is not much fun being the only sober person, but it beats having injured people and broken or stolen property.

Just because a person drinks to excess on occasion doesn't mean that they can't do it responsibly. Or that they aren't responsible enough to own guns.

Back in college I was known to get quite drunk on occasion and never once did I touch a firearm. Three of my four roommates had guns and IF some one had gotten drunk and started playing with a gun, one of us would have taken it away until the person was sober.

I swear some of you people seem to think that every person who drinks is a date-raping, drunk-driving, fight-starting, frat boy.

 

[sicario103]

Drinking heavily on the weekends does not = drinking problem.

Forget guns in his situation. In his situation, would mean he has to leave his gun at home whenever he goes to school.... something extra for thieves to take if they break in his house.

I say drink! Drink alot... Drink everyday. Party and get togethers at the appartment everyday! Maybe numbers will be enough deterrence.

CHUG IT! CCCHHuuuuuuggg

 

[Justin]

And on that note...